Liberals’ Big Lie of Equality
Written on January 26, 2012 by David L. Goetsch
Liberal politicians who favor big government typically justify their misguided worldview on the basis of equality, fairness, and social justice. They like to claim that government is more fair and just than the free market, although they are unable to provide any evidence to support their claim. Frankly, in most cases their real justification is more likely to be that letting voters become dependent on the government treasury has become the most dependable way to get elected or re-elected in America. Addicts are very loyal to their suppliers.
For the sake of argument, assume that big-government advocates are really committed to bringing about equality, fairness, and social justice through government coerced social engineering. Would this misguided sincerity on their part make taking from one person and giving to another irrespective of merit any less objectionable? Hardly. Equality that is based on taking from productive citizens and giving to the less productive is not equality at all. It is legalized theft, and the thief is the government. Rationalizing legalized theft on the basis of equality, fairness, and social justice is the big lie of liberals.
Government-coerced equality, fairness, and social justice are a lie because they: 1) are not a legitimate role of government, 2) are not an enumerated power in the Constitution, 3) do not work, 4) allow politicians and government bureaucrats to determine what is equitable, fair, and just, 5) encourage an unhealthy dependence on government, and 6) devastate the economic well being of society. In fact, big government is inherently unequal, unfair, and unjust. By undermining the economic freedom of its most productive citizens, big government also undermines the personal freedom of all Americans. Without personal freedom there can be no equality, fairness, or justice. Consequently, by seeking to establish an arbitrary state of equality, fairness, and justice in society, government is exceeding its Constitutional authority on one hand while ignoring a Constitutional mandate on the other. That mandate is to protect the freedom of all American citizens. Legalized theft protects the freedom of neither its victims nor its supposed beneficiaries.
It is absurd to avow that it is somehow equitable, fair, and just to take from a productive person and give to a less productive or unproductive person, to claim that one is helping the poor by hurting the rich, or to state that one is assisting the unemployed by undermining the competitiveness of employers who create jobs. Where is the equality, fairness, and social justice in these practices? The concept of being our brother’s keeper implies voluntarily helping each other. When a “have” gives to a “have-not” it should be in the form of charity or opportunity, not government coercion. How is it fair and just when a person who prospers by working long, hard, and smart has his assets forcibly taken by government and given to an able-bodied person who would rather milk the system than work?
Does all of this mean there should be no taxes? No. Government exists to carry out specific responsibilities as enumerated primarily in Article 1, Section 8 of the Constitution. These enumerated responsibilities are funded through taxation. The issue is one of maintaining a proper balance, and big-government programs provided in the name of equality, fairness, and social justice coupled with America’s growing entitlement mentality have tipped the scales in the wrong direction. As a result, the federal government has grown so far beyond Constitutional intent that if the founders could somehow return for a day they would not recognize their creation. In fact, they would probably think they had created a monster.
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Big government is not benevolent! It is destructive! Every politician who supports larger government involvement in the lives of The People should be fired from Congress and have their benefits stripped.
Some of us voters disagree which is why we vote these people in.
I think Social Security has saved millions of lives and has been a very positive experience for Americans.
davessss are you crying in there!!!!!!!!!… Bahahahahahahahahaha.mm
Daves, what about welfare, food stamps, government housing?
Social security is a failed program. The top of the pyramid has grown to wide. When social security was started, life expectancy was only 65 to 70 years. Now that people are living much longer, the system can’t survive without major changes.
I was raised to save for my future and assume responsibility for my own life. The social security system was never meant to take the place of saving and investing.
SS needs a couple of small adjustments to keep it solvent for another 100 years.
Welfare, food stamps, government housing? Less than 5% of our annual budget. In 2010, all low income assistance accounted for 5.3% of the budget.
factcheck.org/2011/07/fiscal-factcheck/
I know how frustrating it is to make a correct point and not get through to him in the slightest bit. Consequently, I suggest you not waste your time on daves. Allow him to remain misguided, he deserves it. Neither you or I will ever convince him he is wrong. But he is. As I have said in the past it is not possible to reason with an unreasonable person. He is unreasonable.
daves, Not quite sure how it saves “millions of lives” as I don’t know what they were dying of before SS. First families, then churches, then charities helped people. I’m on Social Security, but if I had been able to keep what I paid in (actually it would be better to require people to pay into a fund of their own that they couldn’t touch until a certain age), I would be getting more money than SS.
But you had the option to pay into your own retirement.
Human behavior says that most people will spend rather than save.
Nice try, daves! But your logic fails. Paying into SS is NOT an option whereas private individual plans are choice. Your implication that he had a choice is typical of Leftist reasoning in that since he had a choice of a private pension that in and of itself disregards the requirement that he pay into SS. One is free willed, the other not.
As for welfare, food stamps, etc., ALL were intended to be stop-gap, short term aids, NOT a life-long way of life. Conservatives see a difference, Liberals do not.
The simplest way of dealing with it would be for Conservatives to not be forced to support such a system but those of you who think it should be done- YOU pay for it.
Eveyone’s now happy. Conservatives get to preserve and expand their personal wealth, whereas Liberas get to experience what all previous socialist societies have discovered: more and more will quit working so that they can enjoy the fruits of your labor.
What is it you don’t get about this?
“Human behavior says that most people will spend rather than save.”
That statement of yours pretty much sums up the problem with welfare as well. IF you can spend OTHER people’s money- and not need to work for a living- then why work and why not be living off of other people’s money- welfare?
You have the words, you just lack the understanding of how to apply those words.
Even – you said: “The simplest way of dealing with it would be for Conservatives to not be forced to support such a system but those of you who think it should be done- YOU pay for it.”
Does that go for wars and oil subsidies as well?
Do not waste your time on daves. Allow him to remain misguided, he deserves it. Neither you or I will ever convince him he is wrong. But he is. As I have said in the past it is not possible to reason with an unreasonable person.
You lack the facts to backup your claims.
You would be correct….IF the big government wasn’t spending the SS money as fast as they can bring it in. This is why they were threatening people with no SS payouts when the debt ceiling debate was going on. SS doesn’t work because people are corrupt. The MOST important thing about any government ever is protect the people from the corruption that ALWAYS inserts itself into places of power.
Every penny paid into social security is backed by U.S. treasury bonds. The U.S. would have to default on it’s debt to stop the payments.
daves – every time you post a comment you show repeatedly how stupid you are!!! Social Security is NOT an entitlement. People who work pay into that program. If the government wants to stop it, refund the money people have paid over their lifetimes and let the PEOPLE take care of their retirement.
Now, you want to talk about entitlements that really irritate me – welfare, food stamps, public housing – to name a few. GET OFF OF YOUR LAZY BUTTS AND WORK!! Oh, wait, all these people on welfare think they should start out as CEO. Poor pathetic excuses for human beings.
Do not waste your time on daves. Allow him to remain misguided, he deserves it. Neither you or I will ever convince him he is wrong. But he is. As I have said in the past it is not possible to reason with an unreasonable person. He is unreasonable.
originally, SS was a retirement account funded by each worker. between 1951 and 2003, I contributed ~$200k (and my employers, as much again). had that money been in a savings account for that period, I would be an outright millionaire. today I would be with Romney; donating 20% of my income to charity.
actually, I guess I am with him as the govt has, for the past 30yrs, been making the donation for me.
@ Daves:
Stop the Ponsi scheme. Better to adopt the Chilean model & have soc. sec. accounts (partly invested in private stocks & govt T bonds) with person’s specific name on it that could be passed down to heirs upon death.
Right on, The Enemy. What you say is so true. You speak the truth, my friend. Every politician that supports big government and makes the citizens dependent on it in order to control them, like dictators do, should be fired and like you say stripped of any benefits. Way to go!!!!!!!!! See website: http://www.haasstrep68.com
A job is a right, unless you are deemed not to be Politcally Correct.
“A government strong enough to provide for every need, is strong enough to take for every need”
Thomas Jefferson
Progressives (Liberals’) keeping minorities in their place since 1865.
Lyndon Johnson correctly predicted that southern Democrats would become Republicans once the civil rights act was passed.
Daves- Did you know when you make things up in your head and then post them to the Internet – - – those thoughts do not magically become true?
Handy consumer tip for you pal.
Prove me wrong – or are you only clever at meaningless remarks.
Dave- don’t try that nonsense with the intelligent people posting here. They ALL know the favorite Lib method of diverting attention. And you just tried it. You want someone ELSE to try and prove your statement incorrect. The problem is: you can’t prove what isn’t so.
Put in simpler terms; logically, the negative is unprovable.
@ Daves:
I guess that is why LBJ had to go to the Republicans in Congress (Sen. Evertt Dirksen) to get the 1964 Civil Rights Bill passed. Didn’t buy them (Republicans) much love from the media.
LOL
Exactly – because the racist southerners were still Democrats then.
Like Bill Clinton’s mentor Sen Fulbright.
lol
Forgot to add the late Sen. Robert Byrd & ex Grand Klegle from West Virginia.
aMERICA HAS A TERRIBLE cancer;; it is called liberal progressive ideology and it must be cut out and destroyed. Obama is the seed and he must be sterilized.
George Soros & his foundations are the sower of the seed.
When was the last time modern American government gave a damn about the Constitution? The most these mostly lawyer-career politicians want to know about the Constitution is how to twist it into something other than what it really says or how to ignore or get around it. As long as those on the public dole retain the right to vote the most dispicable pandering element of the political class will continue to be elected. Jesus did not say, He who has two coats give one to the government and let the government redistribute it. We’re sunk as a nation, we’ve probably gone too far astray, and there is no way back to self-sufficiency withthese societal leeches.
If you dont work for things they are not yours.Im tired of supporting freeloaders,their is no reason in this day and time we have people on welfare for years (unless they are lazy and refuse to work)the dems are always saying we need these illegal to work the feilds and Americans wont do it,I beg to differ if you cut that welfare check theyll work the feilds or starve to death its up to them,they are always talking about poor Americans they need food stamps then why in the hell here in wa state can you go to the gas station and one of these so called poor people are trying to sell you food stamps for 50 cents on the dollar,How can poor people have cable,cell phones,North face jacket fairly new cars houses decked out.That doesnt sound poor to me.These are the things I have because I work my A** off,but they get it for free off my taxes something is wrong with this picture.
The biggest freeloaders are the businesses receiving Government subsidies.
SOLYNDRA, Light Squared, General Electric, loans to Petrogras of Brazil (with George Soros investing one Bil) & General Motors
(after GM was bailed out, they were given over to the labor uniions & any investors were told to pound sand by the Govt, made to take 29% on investments).
Add to above money from stimulus going to ACORN & SEIU to influence (steal) elections.
Petrogras did not get a penny of tax payer money. They were loaned some from the Import Export bank.
GE – I am not aware of subsidies but you could be correct.
Solyndra, absolutely.
It will NEVER be equal until we do this. Until then the rich will pay 15% if your lucky, the middle ( working class) will pay about 20-36% and the 160,000,000 parasite we have in this nation will pay nothing and yet their b-i-t-c-h about how those who work should pay more. here’s the cure:
Step #1 = Abolish the IRS and all of its tax codes immediately.
Step #2 = Establish a flat 10% tax rate plus a 2% VAT tax where your annual tax obligation is automatically withdrawn from each paycheck. This 10% withdraw will cover the individuals state and federal obligation for the year with no need to ever file a 1040 form. There’s to be no other taxes of any kind for any reason. The 10% is distributed at 2% to the state and 8% the federal government and is to be frozen at 10% for eternity. A 2% VAT is to assure those that make the most and therefore spend the most will be the ones who pay the most because they buy the most.
Step # 3 = State, Federal and VAT taxes are to be frozen forever and will never be more than 10% of you earnings / profits and since all earnings and sales are electronically recorded you cannot hide / shelter them.
If the United States of America cannot run it’s government on 10% of everyone’s income then shut down all non essential programs and keep only those a 10% tax + 2% VAT will support. In conjunction with the fair taxation plan comes no borrowing to sustain or support any programs, period, and the books must be balanced on Dec 31st of each year with the results posted in real time; allowing the public to see where their money is being spent.
Only you the tax paying people of America can stop the insanity of being taxed into poverty and used as a never ending involuntary donor to support the parasite of this world. If you have no balls to abolish the IRS or to mandate the establishment of a fair tax policy, then just change your name to JB ( Johnny Bendover ) and smile as they molest you and your children relentlessly for eternity.
As it stands now and with the current IRS tax code this is exactly what they’re doing to you at this moment.
It’s time for a cashless society worldwide so we can get our financials in order and assure we are all sharing the tax load equally.
So people rich enough to live off their investments don’t get a paycheck for anyone to withhold 10%, so they would only have to pay the 2% VAT tax on what they buy? A simpler, better way is to JUST have a National Sales tax – no other Federal taxes. EVERYONE would pay when they spend the money, and eventually it all gets spent. No Nat. sales tax on (unprepared) food, medicine or used items (the government only gets money the first time something is sold at retail.) Someone with only enough money for lifes esentials wouldn’t be paying anything. If poor people bought used appliances, cars, etc. they still wouldn’t have to pay tax. But when you get enough money to go out to eat or by new electronic devices, you pay tax. And the rich buy expensive items and they buy more of them than the middle class so they pay more taxes.
Will there be a tax on stock purchases?
CRY > CRY < KING HOMO WILL GIVE EVER $$$ HE CAN GET HOLD OF FOR HIS AGENDA . TO OVER THROW THIS GOVERMENT, AN YOU CAN GET ON YOUR KNEES WITH THE REST OF YOU MUSLIMS.
FOR THATB IS HIS AGENDA, RIGHT MICKEY MOUSE.
FOR THE NEXT 8 MONTHS AIRFORCE ONE WILL BE HAVING DAILY FLIGHTS . MEDIA , AN MORE MEDIA . ALL ABOARD .
TAXPAYERS GET THE BILL .
I guess these OWS fools think a job is a right even if you don’t show up for work.
LOL
Ninety percent of all legislation is used to eliminate competition for a political contributor. The more regulation the fewer small businesses that can afford to stay in business. The political way, be big or we will bury you in regulation which only to big can afford to comply with.
Liberalism gave us the Ku Klux Klan.
You may be refering to the 1915 silent film by D.W. Griffth, ‘Birth of a Nation’.
Progressive Democrat President Woodrow Wilson, instead of condemning the film, commented to the press, “…and all too true”.
The KKK was a dying organization at the start of the 20th Century, but the above film & failure of top officials like Pres. Wilson to speak against it gave the Klan a rebirth & membership began to swell.
“To take from one, because it is thought his own industry and that of his fathers has acquired too much, in order to spare to others, who, or whose fathers, have not exercised equal industry and skill, is to violate arbitrarily the first principle of association, the guarantee to everyone the free exercise of his industry and the fruits acquired by it.” –Thomas Jefferson
Industry:
For all the Occupy crowds, thats an old fashion term for work, a productive activity that meets a market demand. viz: somebody will pay you for a good or service because they need or want that good or service.
Liberals are only for big government and do not care about the People or the country until their bank accouts are drained by their own brain dead agenda!!!And the worst is that that can’t see it coming!!!
With every Gov. entitlement you lose a portion of your freedom. Soon you will owe your soul to the Gov. store!!!