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Can we Talk? Politically Correct Liberals are Intellectual Cowards

Written on Wednesday, June 4, 2014 by

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Liberals have a love-hate relationship with the concept of free speech. They love it when it works on their behalf, but they hate it when it applies to people who disagree with them. To a liberal, free speech means the freedom to say what they want you to say and nothing else. Agree with a liberal and you will enjoy unimpeded free speech. Disagree with a liberal and you will wonder what ever happened to free speech. Because of the broad-based expectation of free speech by American society, liberals have had to come up with another way to suppress speech that runs counter to their nefarious agenda. That tactic is political correctness, a concept that is indeed political but hardly correct.

Political correctness is the left’s antidote to the expectations of Americans concerning free speech. Society’s expectations may not allow liberals to suppress free speech to the extent they would like—something along the lines of the infamous alien and sedition acts of President John Adams—but political correctness certainly does. Political correctness prescribes from the perspective of liberals what is appropriate to say in public conversation and what is not. In this way liberals are able to control conversation, debate, and discussion in the public square. By applying the one-sided tenets of political correctness, the left essentially controls verbal discourse in America.

I have always believed that people who are comfortable with their views should welcome discussion and debate. If they truly believe what they profess to believe people of any political persuasion should be able to defend their views. Further, they should welcome opportunities to do so. This is not the case with liberals. Their idea is to foist their views on American society while allowing neither debate nor dissention. State publically a point of view that runs counter to liberal orthodoxy and you will immediately be descended on by the god’s of political correctness. Whoever coined the adage about the fury of a woman scorned had never been subjected to the character assassination tactics of the left. The philosophy of liberals on free speech seems to be: When you cannot effectively debate someone whose views run counter to those of the left, attack, vilify, and destroy that person.

Political correctness is killing free speech in America and, by so doing, is undermining all of our freedoms. When we cannot talk about proscribed issues—issues ruled out of bounds by the dictates of the left—all Americans suffer a loss of freedom. We also lose the ability to find solutions to some of our most pressing socio-cultural problems. Just as fire is used to strengthen steel, free and open discussion can be used to strengthen the arguments of both sides when debating issues of importance. Free and open debate can also open the eyes of those debating the issues to possibilities, points of view, and solutions other than those they espouse. People who refuse to submit their views to the fire of open discussion are intellectual cowards who fear that their views take the heat. They are people who have arrived at unworthy points of view for reasons other than logic, reason, and truth; reasons such as politics, power, and position. In short, they are intellectual cowards.

What are some issues Americans should be openly and freely debating and would be if they had not been decreed off-limits by liberals and hidden behind the protective shield of political correctness? Two major issues come immediately to mind: racism and same-sex marriage. The racial divide in America is unnecessarily broad. The lack of trust between and among the races can be attributed in part to our inability to discuss race-related problems without being labeled racists. By the way, to disagree with a liberal on any racially-charged issue is to immediately be labeled a bigot and a racist, and this rule of thumb applies regardless of whether you happen to be white, black, Hispanic, or Asian.

To liberals, anybody of any race who disagrees with their political presuppositions is by their definition a racist. This is too bad because we will never solve our racial problems unless we can talk about them, and there are plenty that need to be talked about. We need to discuss problems such as school dropout rates, fatherless families, high unemployment, gang violence, drugs, and crime among minorities, but we cannot because these subjects have been ruled off limits by the gods of political correctness. We need to be able to talk about why black Americans cannot be conservatives who reject nanny government without being vilified by liberals, black and white. We need to be able to talk about how to appropriately deal with people of both races who make bigoted statements. We also need to be able to ask why a skunk like Donald Sterling is treated one way for making racist remarks while an equally offensive lout like Al Sharpton is given a pass when they both should be called to account—equally. We need to be able to discuss the ineffectiveness of the left’s so-called war on poverty. We need to be able to discuss whether the social safety net provided by the federal government has morphed into a magic carpet that welfare recipients have no intention of climbing off of.

The fact that we cannot openly and freely discuss these and other pressing socio-political issues responsibly is why I am convinced that liberals want neither harmony among the races nor solutions to America’s social problems. Take away racial discord and liberals are left without any ammunition for their political guns. Solve our most pressing social problems and liberals have nothing on which to base their anti-America, anti-conservative diatribes. To liberals advances toward racial harmony and solutions to social problems signal the eventual end of their relevance in American politics because liberals are not about finding solutions, they are about stirring up discord, envy, anger, and frustration. This is why for liberals it is necessary to use political correctness to rule inconvenient topics off limits and to vilify anyone—black or white—who has the temerity to even raise them. With the dependable cooperation of the mainstream media it is easier for liberals to use character assassination to pre-empt free speech than to discuss issues in an open and honest manner that might lead to solutions or, at the very least, less tension among the races. In this regard, liberals remind me of a college professor I once knew who would not allow students to ask questions for the simple reason that he could not answer them.

Another issue that has been ruled out of bounds by the liberal gods of political correctness is same-sex marriage. There are a lot of Americans who have legitimate concerns about equating conjugal relations between homosexuals with the marriage of a man and a woman, but to even raise such concerns is to be subjected to the venomous attacks of homosexuals who apparently came out of the closet for the purpose of putting their opponents in it. To oppose same-sex marriage on any ground—Biblical, biological, or societal—is to be labeled a bigot in a sheet and hood who burns crosses. Again, if liberals are so certain that their views on same-sex marriage are valid and defensible, why suppress free, open, and honest debate on the issue? Why apply the unworthy tactics of character assassination, vilification, and bullying?

The very people who for years were subjected to verbal and physical attacks because of their homosexuality are now using the same tactics on people who disagree with their views. If this were nothing but a case of turn-about is fair play, it would be hard to argue with their tactics but the people they are attacking are not hoodlums from their past who treated homosexuals badly. Rather, many who support traditional marriage are priests, pastors, Christian laypeople, intellectuals, and legal scholars who have legitimate objections to same-sex marriage but who would never stoop to the tactics used against homosexuals in the past and that homosexuals are using against them now.

Our Founders knew how important free speech would be in a Democratic and self-governed society. This is why the very first amendment added to the Constitution dealt with freedom of speech and the press; an amendment liberals in Congress are trying to amend as I write this column. They knew that protecting unpopular speech would be critical to the longevity of the country they risked their lives, fortunes, and sacred honor to establish. Speech that is broadly popular needs no protection. To use political correctness to impede free speech—not by law but by politically-correct bullying—threatens the continued existence of our country as a free and open nation, something liberals should acknowledge before it is too late. What is politically correct is specified by those who are able to dictate terms at any given point in time. Right now that is liberals, but this may not always be the case. If conservatives and Christians who have had their free speech suppressed for so long ever find themselves once again in the ascendancy on socio-cultural matters in America, it might prove difficult to convince them to be magnanimous.

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  • CTConservatives47

    This is all cultural Marxism, specifically the “selective tolerance” practiced by the Frankfurt School that came here in the 1930s. There aim was to win America over to Soviet-style communism. To their perverted minds, free speech was only for those not part of the “dominant power structure.” however defined. Hta’s why the :”Free Speech” movement at Berkeley was such a fraud. It gew out of these roots. Sadly, these people have polluted our instititutions of “higher” education with these intellectually bankrupt ideas, including the preoccupation with radfe, sex, gender and class, indoctrination, sensntivity training, affirmative action. Students and parents need to avoid schools with any of these predilections, and starve them of tuition and fees. These are NOT serious institutions of learning.

    • Susan

      Exactly—the Frankfurt School learned from Wundt and Wittgenstein—-that when you control the Words and Language, you control the proper perspectives–especially of the children. The Wundtian/Fitche psychology (Snow is Black) has been used in public schools to force irrationality, since the socialist John Dewey created “Modern” schooling—-just “operant conditioning” to destroy Wisdom and Virtue in children. They destroy Reason and Logic—removed all Classical Thinking—Socratic Method, Aristotelian Logic and the Euclidian Proofs so children’s minds would be like mush—filled with nonsense, and unable to be critical thinkers.

      “Hey, Ho, Western Civ has got to go” –the Marxist takeover of Stanford—was to remove all the greatest ideas of Western Civilization—literally erasing the Great Books and ideas of a John Locke, Founders, or Adam Smith or Montesquieu and the Holy Bible: the ideas which created the Age of Reason and most brilliant political document in the history of man which created the most Free and Prosperous nation which was based on the Christian concept of “Individual Natural Rights from God”. Those concepts have to be erased, Christian ideology has to be erased (kill God) so that the pillars that formed Western Civilization will not exist in minds of the NWO kids—kids who will be so ignorant of Traditions and History, they will believe whatever irrational things Leftists say, like Snow is Black, Vice is Virtue, Sodomy is “Good”, etc.

      It is to create “happy slaves” like the serfs and peasants of old. All divisions is to destroy Unity and create chaos and hate. Tyrannies need to promote Fear and Hate. Free Republics need to promote “Public Virtue” (Montesquieu). It is why children are taught Vice is Virtue now in schools in Kindergarten…by Jerry Brown….to erase Christianity and Truth/Reason from their minds.

    • Tim Mayeaux

      sounds like an unGREATful SOCIETY to me. Worthy of death.

  • http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/ Ted R. Weiland

    Limiting Christian expression is the INEVITABLE CONSEQUENCE of the late 1700 Enlightenment founders’ First Amendment. Because the founders provided for free speech without providing Biblical parameters, Christians today find themselves being bullied and censored by homosexuals and other ungodly “liberals”:

    “…The provision in Amendment 1 for United States citizens to assemble peaceably [and free speech] appears innocuous. But is it harmless to give sodomites, infanticide advocates, and Satanists the right to assemble peaceably? If you are a proponent of the Constitution and a defender of Amendment 1,
    you must also defend the rights of such criminals and anti-Christians to assemble and promote their wicked agendas.

    “Homosexuals and infant assassins claim freedom of speech and the right to assemble to combat Christians who speak out or assemble against these heinous people and their blatant immorality. By labeling what Christians do as hate crimes, these immoral people are able to employ Amendment 1 against the rights of Christians to freely speak and assemble. According to the Bill of Rights, it is the religious right of these sodomites, baby killers, and Satanists to use Amendment 1 against Christians. Because Amendment 1 provides for the freedom of “all” religious and non-religious expression (including humanism, which was declared a religion in 1961, in Torcaso v. Watkins74), exclusive religions such as Christianity are not afforded the same [level of] protection. Only non-Christian religions, particularly those that are inclusive or tolerant, are afforded full freedom of speech and public
    assembly….”

    For more, see online Chapter 11 “Amendment 1: Government-Sanctioned Polytheism” of “Bible Law vs. the United States Constitution: The Christian Perspective” at http://www.bibleversusconstitution.org/BlvcOnline/biblelaw-constitutionalism-pt11.html.

  • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

    This is not just about hate speech.. this can also ban Books.. Or any written articles Democrats want to destroy, like documents and things they do not want people reading, or seeing , or speaking about..They can even destroy our history books, rewriting them into putting all ex-presidents down as terrorist and Obama as the greatest American president USA ever had…They can Ban the Bible, even children’s books.. Freedom of speech has to stay or we will only be fed what the Democrat want us to say or write or read… Bet Obama won’t ban the Quran….

    • Susan

      They have been controlling text books and MSM for over 80 years since JP Morgan bought all the leading AP outlets in early 1900s…..to vilify the two pillars of Western Civilization: Christianity and the Natural Family.

      They need to destroy Reason and Truth, (Christianity created the Age of Reason and modern Science) so they have to fill little children up with Lies and twisted truth, to destroy their ability to “think” and “Know”.

      It is why Liberals/Leftists (products of the public schools) seem so brain-dead, even with Facts. (Like in gun-control issues where facts prove “More Guns, Less Crime” or in Free Market Economies). They have been totally brainwashed—and developed the condition of “cognitive dissonance” (caused by the brainwashing—psychological warfare). John Dewey was a socialist who was out to destroy the belief in Christianity and Capitalism in children.

    • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

      I know but think of all the good story books that kids grew up with even.. Like the three little pigs and we know Islam will ban that book for sure.. I may not agree with every book l read but l like to read them, some have some truths in them.. And It is all not hate speech either.. I still have a lot of the little golden books from when l was a kid..
      This is why we all need to fight Reid on this freedom of speech.. And he is blaming that on the Koch Brothers too…LOL This man is so crazy.. he needs to be turned out to pasture…

    • Susan

      That is true about Reid. All the Little Golden Books promote Virtue though. Three Little pigs promoted hard work and not taking the easy way out….and that there is evil in the World and you can’t Trust everyone. Teaching myths is essential—to create Wonder and Awe and excitement in the World. Make it Fun!!!! Life is a mystery anyhow and we can’t Know most things. Chivalry and Romance were Christian concepts, along with the Fairy Tales.

      But promoting Virtue (Life Lessons like the Bible) is always the aim of parenting and Just governments so children can understand Good and Evil. Understanding what is good and evil is the basis of Wisdom (Cicero).

    • http://yahoo.com/ DustyFae

      Oh, he wants to stop freedom of speech also to stop all people from having a voice in the politics and question him on the decisions he makes… He wants to muzzle us, hope the people back in his home state realize what this means..I will be a big mistake if people can not question their elected leaders and this will make them soul law makers .. and people having no rights to speak out again on anything.. Hope really his people in his state wake up and see what this man is doing, what he will be doing to all people in America..

    • Tim Mayeaux

      be careful Susan. Dusty thinks Abe Lincoln was our best president. He started this crap…..tyrant, hypocrite, liar, white supremacist

  • das_Aardvark

    David L. Goetsch, the United States of America IS NOT a democratic country. Our founders deliberately created us as a Constitutional Republic, stating that a democracy was the most repugnant form of government ever created by mankind. As long as “fools” like you, continue to call us a democracy, the forces of evil win. For someone who thinks himself so smart, you are really SO stupid.

    • mrotwist

      For the benefit of the American citizen who may never have realized it, this fact needs to be repeated at least once every hour in a public forum for the next twenty years. Constitutional Republic is the form of government handed down to us through the collective wisdom of our Founders in the costitution. Tragically, we have bought a “bill of goods” sold to us b y leftists and liberals into believing that we are a “democracy,” which they define in their own terms.

  • jdbixii

    “Political correctness is the left’s antidote to the expectations of Americans concerning free speech.”

    Political correctness is the compromise of principle, definition and the punitive consequences of disobedience to, or violation of, the law, resulting from the evolution of society because of such compromise. It is the left’s answer to the vicious cycle of lawlessness which they have promoted for and to political advantage. It is seen as favoring minorities and applicable to them and represents a rejection of the disciplines of standards which are considered to be prejudicial towards minorities. It has produced inequality before the law and favoritism with respect to minorities. It represents a kind of reverse discrimination based on factors which are essentially irrelevant to the crux of qualification.

    Political correctness, for all practical purposes, is worthless because it allows people to think that what is, in fact and essence, incorrect, is either unimportant or correct, neither of which is true.

  • DrSique

    Another issue that cannot be honestly discussed, because of the PC nazis, is illegal immigration. Anyone who suggests that our laws should be enforced is immediately deemed a racist, nativist or some such slur. As someone who spent decades in construction, I can assure everyone that foreign nationals are NOT just doing the jobs that Americans won’t. They do have the ability to work for less because their living requirements are substandard. Of course, their lower pay is subsidized by taxpayers who foot the bill for education, medical care, incarceration, etc. of illegal aliens. The last estimate for the cost, to Americans, of illegal immigration was $114,000,000,000 annually. Yup, that’s billions and doesn’t include indirect expenses like sixty billion a year in remittances removed from our economy, the cost of subsidizing Americans put out of work because of illegal immigration, depressed wages due to a massive glut in the labor market, etc……… Of course, the left wants to have their cake and eat it too. They argue, usually in the same breath, that we should have yet another massive legalization AND raise the minimum wage. If our labor laws were enforced, wages would go up because of the fundamental law of economics, supply and demand. Liberals almost always argue that the employers of illegals should be punished BUT, as soon as this argument is agreed with, they change their liberal tune. While both parties are sellouts on this issue, the democrats are more so as they claim to be the party of the working class. At one point in time they were but, now, they are the party of those who refuse to work, those who are working illegally and those who just plain have no class.

  • GeoInSD

    Being able to say only what is politically correct, isn’t that the way in totalitarian regimes – where it is widely acknowledged there is no free speech? So really, political correctness means no free speech. Please, let’s finally say it like it is. Political correctness is very much suppression of free speech. I believe it is actually intended to be.

    • mrotwist

      Yes! Thomas Jefferson stated a devastating truth which is preserved for us in the Jefferson Memorial. PC = mind control, pure and simple. It’s simply a matter of maintaining power, and the liberal/progressives know that they can retain it no other way..

    • Tim Mayeaux

      America lost its freedom/liberty 150 years ago. Amerika because of mob rule (democracy) has become the Evil Empire. You think you’re free? Prove it. Name one thing that you do that isn’t connected to a fee/tax.

  • carolskey

    PC is the work of the devil (or liberals…your choice!). God protect us from the ignorance of the left!

    • Tim Mayeaux

      IF you know GOD, that is a given. Sheep do not eat goat food (believe lies). “my sheep know my voice” “a stranger’s voice they do not know”

  • NoMoLies

    You can’t really blame the liberals for all the PC BS. After all it’s working for them and voters keep putting these terrorists in office.

    • Nvrpc GS

      If this be the case we have a lot of mentally ill people in america. California demonstrated that a few days ago when the demos were the most desired. This state is sick and all that could do it any good is for a big ocean wave come in and break at about the Dublin grade taking all west of Dublin out to sea with the undertoe along the entire west coast

  • Kaspar_Goering

    You seem to assume that all speech that Conservatives participate in is on the same level as rational debate on issues. However you have prejudiced yourself by assuming that what Conservatives say is necessary and proper. When the majority of what Conservatives participate in is exchange of Propaganda. It is the recognition of Conservative Propaganda that upsets conservatives more than any thing else. Like when I ask the question “What did the President, Mr Obama, “lie” about, specifically?” It seems no conservative can really make a case for ANYTHING that THEY call a “LIE” from Mr Obama, our President. Just the “talking points” distributed by the Conservative Propaganda machine.

    • Bob666

      Kaspar,
      It took some time to connect the dots, You were on PLD as “KG”. I missed your witty responces to the morons on that site.

    • Kaspar_Goering

      Yea, I insulted the Bob and got kicked off. Well, actually I called on his BS and he couldn’t take it anymore. However, thanks to the Internet, there are plenty of “morons” that need spankings! Solidarity Forever, bro!

    • Ddenney1

      Is this Heir Goering???? The National Socialist???

    • Kaspar_Goering

      What? My family is from Stuttgart. Herman was from an elite aristocratic family in Austria. I’m not anything like a “National Socialist” or a Nazi, I am a trade Union Social Democrat. I’m part of the ‘good guys!”

    • Tim Mayeaux

      YEA ! BIG difference. The only good NAZI and the only good demonrat are dead ones. Both are racist.

    • Kaspar_Goering

      Why do you say so many lies? Do you recognize the racists proclivities of yourself? What if I told you that I was Jewish as well? Would THAT make a difference?

      http://i3.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/000/696/431/980.jpg

    • Bob666

      Well Kaspar,
      If it makes you feel better, I called Bob out for being a hypocrite. If you put Bob on the God pedestal, you have free range to insult anyone, but if he disagrees with you, he spanks you for a “lack of respect”.

      I actually enjoyed your creative exchanges with the likes of “spin master Jay”, “Jeffery the hypocrite”, “Dave who spent a bit to much time on Mises” & the “gay mystical Samurai”.

      I saw some of you best work there.

    • Kaspar_Goering

      Yes debating with people like “Von Misies created Air” Dave is fun! Especially when you find out half the stuff they believe is pure BS.

      Thank you Bob666. I enjoyed many of your posts as well. It’s nice to know there are other sane people in the world.

      Solidarity Forever!

    • Tim Mayeaux

      unGREATful SOCIETY lives. Amerika dies.

    • Kaspar_Goering

      What makes you say such terrible things? Are you grateful for the sacrifices that YOUR ancestors suffered through to get you to where you are today?

      Or are you a selfish, self-centered Libertarian who believes that Freedom is OK for yourself but no one else?

    • GRAMPA

      What planet do you live on? First, If you like your doctor you can keep your doctor. I have had my doctor for thirty years he is not on the list of “approved doctors”
      Second. Your rates will be cheaper and you will save $1200.00 a year. My yearly costs have gone up $3000. dollars and my deductible has raised from $500.00 to $4500. dollars
      I will not go on for these are the lies that I can prove.
      Grampa

    • Kaspar_Goering

      If your costs have raised by that much, then you must be part of the group that has been underpaying for coverage in relation to your annual salary.

      Your doctor must not accept Medicare. Or participate in Medicaid. That IS a requirement. You may have to wait in a line with “colored” people for once in your life.

      When the President said “…you can keep your Doctor…” it was the truth at that time. However, the Republicans had managed to sneak in so many “poison pills” into the legislation that is has spoiled any kind of Victory for the President, Mr. Obama.

      Any other “lies” you would like debunked?

    • GRAMPA

      You cant put qualifiers on truth. I am self employed and electrical contractor. I pay for my health care and part of my employes. I know the costs for I have been in the field for fifty years. I know when someone lies. If you dont you have much to learn.
      Grampa

    • Kaspar_Goering

      What you should do, before it’s too late, is join the IBEW and participate in their health program. As a bonus, they will throw in a pension as well.

    • GRAMPA

      I tried but it was a time of prosperity and they didnt want me. now as company owner they wont let me now.
      Grampa

    • Kaspar_Goering

      Sorry to hear about your experience. My Grandfather was a life long electrician at a coffee mill in New Orleans. He wasn’t IBEW because back in the day, you either had to be related to someone or have an inside contact to get in. But what he did was join the Bread Bakers and Beer Brewers Union (now known as Teamsters LU 270. He worked for almost 30 years at Folgers Coffee. And he retired in 1980 with a pension AND social security. Fortunately, he got to see me become a member of the IBEW. He was so proud of me! He said that I was in a “real’ Union and that the IBEW was one of the best outfits to be in. Needless to say, he was right. I joined the IBEW in 1995 and worked for my first contractor for 11 years. Now I’m retired with a pension AND social Security due to brain cancer. I thank G-d everyday I was a Union electrician.

    • GRAMPA

      Some brothers your born with some you choose.
      Grampa

    • Kaspar_Goering

      Thank G-d there were some Brothers to choose. The Republicans want to take that choice away. And the Republicans claim to be defenders of rights, yet they want to take away my right to collectively organize. Why is that?

      If our Country is to recover economically, there must be Labor Unions to ensure that workers get fair compensation and good working conditions. America used to care about those things.

    • GRAMPA

      You talk to the wrong person if you are to convince me that unions are necessary.
      I am an electrical contractor. My doors are open for anyone that shows me they have the skill to do the job. My people have been approached many times to join the union. I offer no incentives not to. They wont because they make more than union wage and enjoy benefits greater than the union offers. I however have been threatened with bodily harm and have had equipment destroyed by them. I provide income for eight men they work for me because a union does not protect the jobs of slackards who cause others to work harder. Over the years I have acquired many loyal skilled workers that make a good living. Over the years we have developed a reputation for top work and my company no longer advertises. At one time the union had a purpose now it protects the unskilled and causes profits to go down and reduces the ability of a company to expand and offer more jobs. I think you need to look at and read the laws yourself and not just listen to the ones who only want your union dues. The government in Michigan passed a right to work not a law saying you cannot organize. If you criticize you should be informed on your topic Government can not build prosperity only businesses. Government regulates and consumes and spends peoples money inefficiently.
      Grampa

    • Kaspar_Goering

      The only reason why you offer wages and benefits that are close to Union wages IS because of the Union. If the union were not to exist you would be paying your slaves the least that you could get away with. That is how unbridled Capitalism works. But because a few brave men wanted a better life for their families, they organized themselves to become a power for the good of the worker. For it’s the labor of these workers that supply the actual value to what service you offer. Without their labor, you would be nothing.

      “Right to work” laws are designed to do two things – destroy Labor Unions and lower wages. Every state in the Union that has passed “Right to Work” legislation has seen its tax base erode away due to the destruction of well paying Unionized jobs. It’s only a matter of time before it becomes apparent in Michigan.

      You would have NO prosperity unless you have a Government. Try and make money in a place without roads or bridges. Or clean drinking water. Or a police force to keep public order. If you think you could be prosperous WITHOUT government then go to Somalia. I’m sure you would become a millionaire in no time.

    • GRAMPA

      Because you are not me you cannot read my mind or know why I do anything. I have run my business for almost fifty years and I use what works. I pay wages to attract quality not someone that cries and whines and believes that life is unfair. Well it isnt and my people enjoy working and my management to them is minimal.I grose almost three million every year and because I reinvest in my company my people have new trucks every two years and the best tools. That is why they work for me.
      Grampa

    • Kaspar_Goering

      I am impressed. I wish there were more contractors like you. Unfortunately, for the majority of contractors, squeezing as much profit out of their workforce has become an art form. How much do you spend on training your workforce? An IBEW local usually asses journeymen 5 cents an hour for the Apprenticeship Training that they provide for their apprentices. Do you provide the training? Or are the journeymen you hire expected to be trained already? Making as much as you are, at least by paying your taxes properly, your local Community College gets some money to train potential future employees.

      I hope the best for you. Someday, if your business succeeds, you may become a Union contractor. Then you can do the really big jobs.

    • GRAMPA

      I have worked hard to have the reputation I have I started my business with five hundred from our savings and a second hand van. Of the eight I now have working I have traind four myself. two are black from the intercity of Detroit like myself. One is ready to take his masters test and likely he will start his own business which will be my loss. At seventy I am thinking to retire and let younger more energetic people do it.
      The man who is getting ready to get his masters license couldn’t read when he came to me. He is a product of the public school system. I wouldn’t let him say I cant. I demanded that he do it. Now married and a home owner his two children also call me Grampa. People will do whatever is expected if we dont accept excuses. As for success I have had plenty i think.
      Grampa

    • Kaspar_Goering

      That is a great story. I have heard similar stories from fellow brothers in my union. There was one fellow who worked for a non-union outfit for a while. He was visited by an organizer from the local. He was told what his wage was supposed to be – since he was on a prevailing wage County job – but he wasn’t aware of how the Contractor was charging the county $50 an hour, but only paying him $6.50. He decided to join the Union. Some lowlife that he was working with cut all of his tools in half with a band saw. When he came to apprenticeship class he told his story. Everyone in the local donated a complete set of brand new Klein tools to him. Now that’s brotherhood!

      Here is a little video from Local 11 in Los Angeles that shows what the Brotherhood does for their communities:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pqU5n1REw-E

    • GRAMPA

      You find lowlifes everywhere for I have a movie taken with my camera of six union people smashing up and threatening my men. this is something I have it is no story. My men refused to join the union so we see the strong arm method Is this right? I presented a copy to the local involved. They paid for all repairs to my truck. I told them any further actions and I would bring down legal charges on the men. My shop is always open and they visit frequently trying to get them to join. I need to do nothing for it is always their choice. I find many that charge ridiculous prices but have seen many come and go. I have customers that no longer ask for quotes for i charge a fair price and have men that do top of the line work. A company built on integrity always wins

      Grampa

    • Tim Mayeaux

      this is WHY the NAZI Goering loves the half breed. obey or ELSE ! Thanks Grampa

    • GRAMPA

      If a union puts its efforts on representing its people and not using its funds to control the output of elections we would see more benafit. We dont need another level of government.
      Grampa

    • Tim Mayeaux

      more government to say what the constitution says, the government CANNOT do this or that to “we the sheeople”. Right to work means LEAVE ME ALONE! Same thing the Confederate States of America said, wanting to remain FREE of tyrants (national socialist/NAZIS)

    • Kaspar_Goering

      So the rebellious, slave owning, Southerners were “Righteous” and “Nobel” in their cause?

      “Right to Work” means the “right to work for LESS.” Every state that Right to Work legislation has been passed suffers from a kind of “Feudalism” where there is a class of workers who are below everyone else. The hard working Construction and mineral resource jobs are the ones that suffer the most. And Unions prevent these hard working people from slipping down the economic ladder.

      If you are looking for Nazis in America they can be found in the Conservative Republican establishments:

      http://www.politicususa.com/2014/02/23/republicans-compared-nazis-stop-acting-nazis.html

    • Tim Mayeaux

      IF the war was about ending slavery, name one free man you know today. He is not paying fees/taxes for ANYTHING (permission) he does in this evil empire. Name one. Soon your very breathe will be taxed. Algore will be collecting it to save the planet (just like saving the slave) N O T !

    • Kaspar_Goering

      It wasn’t a war about Slavery as much as it was a war against two types of social systems. One has its origins in Ancient Egypt. The other was originated by the most liberal, freedom loving people in the world.

      Name me one country that DOES NOT TAX ITS CITIZENS that you would want to live.

    • Tim Mayeaux

      GOD is spelled GOD. HE is NOT pro socialism. If you give to the poor, it is charity. If you steal from others to give to the poor, it is THEFT! If someone ask you to do your job in an unsafe manner, you can report it to BIG BROTHER (OSHA). If they discriminate because you do it safely, you can $ue the tyrant.

    • Kaspar_Goering

      quote: If they discriminate because you do it safely, you can $ue the tyrant.

      Individuals suiting Corporations do not do well even when they have a good case. It is only the power of Numbers that they listen too. And when workers organize into Labor Unions, instead of one employee, they have to deal with ALL of them.

      That’s why Labor Unions are more important now then ever!

      quote: If you steal from others to give to the poor, it is THEFT!

      That is why Governments are instituted among individuals. It is only Civilized societies who have their citizens pay taxes for the Government to provide services.

      Mark 12:13-17

      King James Version (KJV)

      13 And they send unto him certain of the Pharisees and of the Herodians, to catch him in his words.

      14 And when they were come, they say unto him, Master, we know that thou art
      true, and carest for no man: for thou regardest not the person of men,
      but teachest the way of God in truth: Is it lawful to give tribute to
      Caesar, or not?

      15 Shall we give, or shall we not give? But he, knowing their hypocrisy, said
      unto them, Why tempt ye me? bring me a penny, that I may see it.

      16 And they brought it. And he saith unto them, Whose is this image and superscription? And they said unto him, Caesar’s.

      17 And Jesus answering said unto them, Render to Caesar the things that are
      Caesar’s, and to God the things that are God’s.
      And they marvelled at
      him.

      Matthew 17:24-27

      King James Version (KJV)

      24 And
      when they were come to Capernaum, they that received tribute money came
      to Peter, and said, Doth not your master pay tribute?

      25 He saith, Yes. And when he was come into the house, Jesus prevented him,
      saying, What thinkest thou, Simon? of whom do the kings of the earth
      take custom or tribute? of their own children, or of strangers?

      26 Peter saith unto him, Of strangers. Jesus saith unto him, Then are the children free.

      27 Notwithstanding,lest we should offend them, go thou to the sea, and cast an hook, and take up the fish that first cometh up; and when thou hast opened his
      mouth, thou shalt find a piece of money: that take, and give unto them
      for me and thee.

      Jesus paid his taxes. And you should, too.

    • Tim Mayeaux

      there were NO government services before the tyrant destroyed everything in 1861-1865. I DON’T BELONG TO CAESAR. I FEAR NO MAN that has power over my body. FEAR HIM that has power over your body AND soul.

    • Kaspar_Goering

      quote: FEAR HIM that has power over your body AND soul.

      So the slave owning rebellious Southerners were “noble” and “righteous” in their cause?

      Yes – fundamentalist evangelical “christian” preachers and politicians.

      Tell me the passage where Jesus says “good” things about religious people.

    • Tim Mayeaux

      join a union ? really? Unions were one of the few groups that got stimulated. That was MY money given to the half breed’s friends. Ending up in the demonrats pockets? YEA ! Great plan, only to a NAZI, Hir Goering

    • Kaspar_Goering

      It was that money that kept America from completely collapsing due to the Real Estate schemes of Republican Businessmen. It’s those well-paid men in orange safety vests along the highway that saved America. Would you rather it being spent on making weapons of war? You know, the bloated Aerospace corporations who get billions of dollars for weapons America will never use? The you must support the Military Industrial Complex. And the last I heard they are a bunch of Republican businessmen.

    • Tim Mayeaux

      MIC is of the demonrat party (LBJ). JFK was an expendable demonrat.

    • Kaspar_Goering

      The Military Industrial Complex that the Republican President Eisenhower warned us about was created as a result of Americas commitment to defeat global Fascism in WW2.

      America USED to disarm itself after major conflicts like the Civil War. The expansionist policies of Stalin, as well as other “threats” to liberty and freedom around the world led American policy to change from a Peacetime stance to a permanent preparation for global war.

      After the Soviet Union detonated its first nuclear weapon in 1949 many Conservatives in America took a “no holds barred” political stance against ANYTHING even resembling Communism. Thus the American Military Industrial Complex was expanded in the “Red Scare” of McCarthyism (a Republican) to eventually touch every American regardless of their station in life.

      Republican businessmen who made incredible profits from Government Military Contracts didn’t mind the extra ‘fear’ pumped-up by Conservative groups like the John Birch Society and the American Legion – two ultra conservative groups who benefited politically from the “red baiting” of liberal representatives such as Kennedy who was clearly anti-communist but wanted more for Americans than just preparation for War.

    • grannylake

      How then do you explain Obama’s comments on tape for everyone to hear that directly contradict previous statement he made? It’s not matter of changing his mind. He would have to had completely change his entire philosophy.

    • Kaspar_Goering

      Tell that to the Republican President Nixon:

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iGKkPEvD2OM

    • grannylake

      I’m not talking about Nixon. What Nixon did or didn’t do has nothing to do with what Obama did or didn’t do or say.
      That’s called a diversionary tactic.
      Just answer the question at hand. A lie is a lie no matter who says it and every liar is responsible for the lies they tell, especially Obama.

    • Kaspar_Goering

      It is not “diversionary” when they were talking about the same thing. Somehow, Nixon didn’t “lie” but Obama did. And what, exactly, are you referring to?

      I haven’t heard our President say any “lies” about anything. Unlike “W” who lied through his teeth to get America to attack the guy who “threatened his daddy.”

    • grannylake

      Oh my goodness.
      Obama was told by the people that wrote Obamacare that the Americans would not be able to keep their physicians or their same policies. He had that information BEFORE he told the people numerous times that they could keep their doctors and their same policies.
      I read the original law. The number of freedoms that were taken away from Americans regarding their healthcare coverage and the new taxes imposed are astounding, especially since Obama said Obamacare penalties were not taxes.
      If you don’t know that then you are very very uninformed. I suggest you do a little research on your own and learn something. That is only one set of lies out of many that he told. His favorite excuse is “I didn’t know that until I read it in the paper.”
      There’s a very significant difference between protecting information for security’s sake, repeating information from a source you trust but provided inaccurate information and lying for personal political gain.
      Obama wanted Obamacare approved and he did everything he could to convinence everyone how wonderful it is including lying to save his legacy.
      Don’t bother to write back. You don’t know what you’re talking about.

    • Kaspar_Goering

      It sounds like you have all of the correct FOX news talking points, but I see very little about what the President specifically “lied” about.

      What “freedoms”, specifically, did the ACA or “Obamacare” take away from you? From what I understand there are thousands of people who couldn’t get health insurance who are now covered.

      I think YOU don’t know what you are talking about.

    • grannylake

      Actually, I read about five different newspapers and watch multiple news organizations at least five days a week for my information. When I have questions I research original documents. Having done national research projects, I know how to find the facts.
      To try to list every illegal action taken by our government against the American citizens over the last fifty years would take volumes. Obama isn’t the only president to lie to the American people but his absolute amatuer attempt to govern this country and then to use deceit to cover things up when things go wrong, has done more damage to the individual citizen’s right than any president in modern times.
      I’ve had over thirty years as a professional in the healthcare field and have seen first hand the deterioration of healthcare since the implementation of Obamacare. Americans no longer have a choice as to whether to buy health insurance or specifically what insurance coverage they want to buy. Obamacare is a health insurance policy. It pays for the care that it covers with the doctors it chooses. The best healthcare facilities and the best doctors are deciding not to accept or limiting Obamacare and some medicare patients. That’s how healthcare is being rationed.
      Obamacare will pay a very reduced reimbursed payment but not many providers will accept that coverage so everything might be no cost to the patient but the care is not available.
      People like you that seem to speak with authority when you don’t know what you’re talking about. Just like all of the Democrat politicians that repeated Obama’s promises about keeping their doctors and policies to their constituents and are now having to say that is not true. Why do you think no Dem running for reelections want Obama in their State?
      So I can give you facts to teach you the truth but I cannot understand them for you. Your mind is so closed or unable to understand that you are destined to remain in the dark until the roof caves in and the light comes in but by then it’s not relevant because everything has been destroyed.

    • Kaspar_Goering

      I read once that President Kennedy read 5 newspapers every morning. However, since i am only a human being, I have to rely on my “6th sense” as well as what I have learned about human beings through history and the Liberal Arts. While I cannot personally vouch for everything that Mr Obama has said, I am pretty sure that he didn’t “lie” deliberately to deceive for some kind of secret agenda like what most Conservatives seem to believe in. However, it is that fact that makes the “lies” that Bush and Co. made even worse. Because W DID LIE FOR A SECRET AGENDA. Yet Conservatives want to attack and tell lies about a President they don;t like. The question is “why”?

      The problems you mention with Obama care are the ones that Republicans sneaked into the bill to poison it. Remember the toxic atmosphere that this piece of legislation was produced in? Many of the same kind of problems happened with the implementation of Medicare in the 1960′s. And the same culprits were the Conservative Republicans.

      Here is a little Video that i found that explains why Conservatives are so wrong on so many issues:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1OHQ5oMywMk&feature=em-subs_digest-vrecs

    • grannylake

      You are hopeless. You believe that Bush lied but Obama didn’t. Why? They both did and you know it. But as a good Lib Dem you just cannot say it.
      You believe that Republicans “sneaked” stuff into the bill when no Republican was on the drafting committee, they weren’t allowed in on the closed door meetings and they didn’t see the final bill until it was given to the whole Congress. Seriously?
      You cannot even see that you are picking and choosing which proven facts to believe. It’s so obvious that you have never read anything written with supporting facts from any Republican supporter. You should. I’ve read both sides looking for an honest unbiased answer. The Bush war got bipartisan support. Obamacare did not. The fact that you were a student of the liberal arts says a lot about your philosophy. Keep living in dreamland. Good luck

    • Kaspar_Goering

      It seems that you have never mentioned one specific thing that could be called a “lie” from the President. All you said was “Obama lied” like it was true or something. Yet not one specific thing you have stated convinces me that the President “lied” about anything.

      quote:The Bush war got bipartisan support

      Immediately after 9/11 the entire country was on a single wavelength. And that spirit of unity is what made the Democrats go-along with “W”‘s war plan. Our invasion of Afghanistan was a legitimate use of American power after the facts of the responsible parties were established (even though 17 of the 20 hijackers were Saudi Arabian). However, it was the sudden abandonment of Americas mission in Afghanistan to take over the oil reserves in Iraq is where the main problem of the entire war fiasco really went non-linear. The Iraqi invasion was a totally Neocon Republican Geopolitical move designed to , somehow, make America the dominate force on the Planet (like we were not already).

      quote: Obamacare did not.
      Yes, you are right. When Mr Obama was elected President he said he was going to pass some kind of comprehensive Health care legislation. Something America has needed to do since the early 70′s. However, the Republicans decided that Mr Obama was only going to be a “one term President.” So, instead of actually doing anything to actually help Americans through the worse economic conditions since the Great Depresion, the Republicans just stalled and waited untill the 2012 elections thinking that a Republican would get elected so as to start the fleecing of American citizens again – like they did in 2008.

      I’m not living in Dreamland, I’m living in America. Some say “Love it or leave it.” Well, I love America. And I will fight the forces of evil that wish to destroy the ideals set forth in the Preamble to the Constitution:

      We the People of the United States, in Order to form a more perfect Union, establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defence, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to
      ourselves and our Posterity, do ordain and establish this Constitution for the United States of America.

    • Tim Mayeaux

      arguing with a NAZI granny? who is the bigger fool ?

    • lfallar

      The ACA was written by the Heritage Foundation and is what Romney implemented in MA when he was Governor.
      Also, the insurance industry liked they way things were. They could change the rules whenever they wanted. Ask yourself, who were the people that said you can’t use this doctor or that hospital once the ACA got started? The insurance companies make that decision.
      Medicare for all ages is the best way (govt is insurer) but we keep our health care services and people in the private sector. (not govt run like VA)

    • grannylake

      Find ALL of the facts.

      The Heritage Foundation, essentially a conservative think-tank helped draft the Massachusetts Healthcare plan and Mitt Romney, a GOP governor in a blue state signed it into law. It was widely accepted by the people. That plan bears little resemblance to the Obama plan.

      May 2010, after final passage of the current health care law, Senator Max Baucus (D), Chairman of the Finance Committee, architect of Obamacare, who has subsequently called Obamacare a “disaster”, publicly thank the person he credited with making it all happen, Liz Fowler his chief health counsel. She put his health care team together to create healthcare reform, her professional
      lifetime goal. She put together the White Paper in November 2008, the 87-page
      document which became the basis, the foundation, the blueprint from which
      almost all health care measures in all bills on both sides of the aisle came. Prior to that appointment Liz was the equivalent to the chief lobbyist for the America’s Health Insurance Plans. Influence from AHIA helped draft a bill that would make the American people more affordable for the health insurance industry.

      Big Insurance also demanded a seat at the table when it came time to actually
      drafting the regulations and implementing the law, since incompetent government bureaucrats could not be trusted to enact regulations and procedures that would fully indemnify the insurance lobby to its complete satisfaction.

      Stephen Northrup became part of the team. Before becoming chief health advisor to Senator Mike Enzi (D), Northrup was the executive director of the Long Term Pharmacy Alliance, an organization that played a lead role on drafting the mother of all giveaways to Big Pharma, Medicare Part D.

      The primary drafters were Democratic Senator advisors that supported single-payer government healthcare services and the insurance companies that know the government would be obligated to pay them subsidies if they lost money.

    • lfallar

      Medicare part D was put into Law during the Bush yrs and I agree, it was a financial bonanza for Big Pharma. In fact they got over a huge subsidy to be able to “handle” all their new customers.
      What you and I are saying boils down to the same thing. The big 5 or 6 industries in this country own our government. Policies and laws are written FOR them. Both parties work for these oligarchs at the expense of average citizens.
      Conservative talk radio, Fox and other outlets have you believing liberals expect government to take care of us. No!! We want the government we pay for to represent us as well as the big corporations. Every thing public is now seen as socialism so we privatize our prisons, military contractors, schools, hospital corporations etc THINKING it saves tax money. Instead we get less services, lousy wages and benefits while the CEO’s rape and pillage the treasury. THEY are the takers at our expense.
      The corporate media tells us they are the job creators, BUT we the people in this country are the job creators . Henry Ford, a great capitalist, recognized that. He paid his employees well so they had money to buy his cars. Demand is key. If we don’t have money to buy products and services demand falls and people lose jobs. Why is this so hard for republican voters to grasp?
      .

    • Tim Mayeaux

      lying to protect your friends is a hell of a lot different than to save your own ass. Bill Clinton and many others LBJ Lincoln……

    • Tim Mayeaux

      communism is a learned behavior. IT never changes, till killed like any other out of control animal.

    • grannylake

      Good insight!

  • GRAMPA

    When you stand for nothing you will fall for anything.
    Grampa

  • sborsher

    I don’t think that anyone who abides by political correctness is an intellectual anything.

  • grannylake

    Political correctness is more harmful and divisive to Americans and the American spirit than any “cause”, “words” or “action” that the progressive liberals are trying to “fix”.

    • Tim Mayeaux

      PC enforced as law is harmless to anyone but a coward. Never apologize for the truth. It makes you stupid, and a liar like the opposition.

    • grannylake

      PC is a progressive liberal tool to coerce a change in feelings and attitudes neither of which can be legislated. So PC cannot be enforced by law.

      I’m not intimitated by that PCC (political correctness crap) and I don’t change my words or attitudes because someone might take offence, which is very different from using words or actions to be rude, crude and impolite.

      One is called manners based on treating others as you would be treated to make them feel better and the other is a political game to gain control to make yourself feel better. Obviously you don’t understand the difference and probably never will.

  • mathis1689

    Excellent article and well written. Too bad liberals won’t read it without being blinded by their own prejudices.

    • Nvrpc GS

      I doubt very many people in the USA read the patriot update at all or now it exist. They are too busy listening to NBC,CBS, ABC, CNN, etc. the propaganda machine and falling in behind Obama’s death
      march.

    • mathis1689

      You’re probably right although I wish before God that you weren’t.

  • libertyluvur

    Couldnt agree more! Excellent explanation of our current political problems

  • Karll

    Liberals have the minds and emotions of adolescents. Rebellious and passionate, yet uninformed, ignorant of reality and unwise.

    • Susan

      It is what operant conditioning is designed to do: stimulate the Limbic area of the brain–for emotional “thinkers”. Actually, it eliminates the possibility of being Rational, because they fill children up with lies and half-truths, so their very foundation is worthless—they have no “Knowledge” or Wisdom, which is only possible with Classical Education. The socialist, John Dewey, “Father of Modern Education” threw it out. (for socialization/feel good, do it morality and learning how to “feel” towards Christianity (hate/bigots).

      They need to flip Good and Evil in the children, so they tell them Vice is Virtue, Up is Down, etc. so children are totally irrational. When they are hit by Truth/Facts, it causes “Cognitive Dissonance”. Look it up….then you know WHY Liberals seem mentally ill or plain dumb).

  • Tim Mayeaux

    First amendment states that you have the right to speak. It also protects your right to NOT HAVE TO listen. Adults should never argue with children, adult children included.

  • bet1125

    A liberal is afraid that you’ll know what he’s thinking; a conservative is afraid that you won’t know what he’s thinking.