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Obama’s anti-Semitism: Israel should return to Auschwitz borders

Written on Friday, July 15, 2011 by

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“Israel is the only country in the world that is accused by its enemies of practicing apartheid without racism; of perpetrating a Holocaust without gas chambers; of engaging in genocide without mass murder; of committing war crimes without targeting civilians; and of being the worst human rights violator in the world, while having one of the most responsive legal systems in the world. This is accusation by metaphor, prosecution by propaganda, trial by bigotry, guilt by hyperbole, and sentence by sloganeering.”—Alan Dershowitz

This quote sums up “world opinion” about our staunchest ally in the middle-east, and the only democracy in the area.  Yet this just shows the wilful ignorance of history and political realities in that region (see the Patriot columns: Slanders against Israel, Part 1 and Part 2).

Obama’s betrayal of American ally

Obama was long a devoted member of Jeremiah Wright’s church, which printed propaganda from the terrorist group Hamas (Hebrew for “violence”), whose charter calls for the destruction of the Jewish state and to obliterate Jews anywhere in the world.  So it should surprise only the naïve that he has now demanded that Israel return to the indefensible pre-1967 borders—which would also chop its capital in two.

These borders were the lines where Israel stopped seven Arab armies from destroying the new Jewish state in 1948–49.  Since they were explicitly trying to finish Hitler’s job, Israel’s longtime ambassador to the United States and the UN, Abba Eban, called these boundaries line the “Auschwitz border.”

Israel’s Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wasn’t having any of Obama’s nonsense.  He is the son of a still-active 101-year old professor, lived for years in America, has been a diplomat, soldier and terrorism fighter, as well as a free market reformer.  And he smacked Obama down in a way Republican challengers should learn from: politely but firmly, crisply but in command of the facts.  In particular, that those pre-1967 borders meant that:

Israel was all of 9 miles wide— half the width of the Washington Beltway. … So we can’t go back to those indefensible lines, and we’re going to have to have a long-term military presence along the Jordan.”

So what happened to change those borders in 1967?

The Six Day War (June 5–10, 1967)

This brilliant Israeli victory still rankles with Arab Jew-haters, and is claimed as an example of Israeli aggression.  Yet this was a war of self-defense against enemies sworn to annihilate her.  Consider:

  • President Gamal Abdel Nasser of Egypt said, “Our basic objective will be the destruction of Israel.” Iraq’s president Abdur Rahman Aref added: “Our goal is clear — to wipe Israel off the map.”  The Jewish people learned from the Holocaust, only two decades before, that when someone says he intends to wipe out the Jews, believe him!
  • Over 100 terrorist raids had been launched on Israel in the three previous years.
  • Nasser blockaded the Straits of Tiran, closing off Israel’s only shipping outlet to the Red Sea and Indian ocean, choking off most of Israel’s oil supply.  This in itself was a casus belli (justification for war) under international law.
  • Nasser expelled the UN peacekeeping force between their borders.

With all these actions and vicious threats, Israel—remember it was only nine miles wide at the time—could not afford to wait.  Egypt alone had a huge force of 420 aircraft, mainly the latest Soviet MiG-21 supersonic jet fighters.

So Israel hatched a daring plan, Operation Focus (Mivtza Moked).  On June 5, 184 of Israel’s 196 combat aircraft flew out to attack.  But instead of heading directly to Egypt, they went over the Mediterranean, then looped around to attack Egypt from the opposite direction.  The attack was also at 7:45 am, when most high-ranking officers were stuck in the usual Cairo traffic jam.  The planes flew under Egypt’s radar, headed to the air force bases, and bombed the runways so no enemy plane could take off.  Then the Israelis, attacking in waves, wiped out the planes themselves, destroying most of Egypt’s air force on the ground.

Meanwhile, Israel had appealed to Jordan to keep out of the war.  Jordan foolishly ignored this, and attacked from the other side, so the Israeli planes then destroyed much of the Jordanian air force as well.  The Iraqi and Syrian air forces met the same fate.

Then the Israeli land forces defeated the Egyptians, taking the Sinai peninsula.  They followed up with taking the West Bank of the Jordan and Eastern part of Jerusalem from Jordan, so the historic Jewish capital was again in Jewish hands.  Finally, Israel took the Golan Heights back from Syria, which had turned the historically Jewish area into a favorite terrorist rocket launch pad.

After the ceasefire, the Israeli Defense Force commander Yitzchak Rabin, a future Nobel Peace Prizewinner and Israeli Prime Minister, named the battle the “Six Day War”, “evoking the days of creation” from the Hebrew Bible.

Nothing is enough for Israel’s enemies

The above should show that Israel was well justified in expanding its borders.  But even so, Israel has given most of the land back, ostensibly for peace.  Yet her enemies will never be satisfied.  For example, in  2008, Ehud Olmert offered Fatah (Palestinian Authority) leader Mahmoud Abbas, a supposed moderate, 93%, percent of the West Bank, plus more territory from Israel proper. Yet even that was not enough—Abbas just walked out.

As for the “peace”, where is it?  Obama’s betrayal is in effect rewarding Israel’s enemies for their deceit, dishonouring agreements, violence and intransigence.  Even worse, as Netanyahu said in his speech to Congress, “They continue to educate their children to hate. They continue to name public squares after terrorists.”

It also rewards Abbas for re-uniting with the even more militant Hamas.   As Netanyahu pointed out to Obama, Hamas is “the Palestinian version of al Qaida,” and even it even attacked Obama for killing Osama bin Laden, Obama’s latest brag point.  So he rightly said:

“So I say to President Abbas, ‘Tear up your pact with Hamas, sit down and negotiate, make peace with the Jewish state. And if you do, I promise you this: Israel will not be the last country to welcome a Palestinian state as the new member of the United Nations. It will be the first to do so.’”

The only way forward

Again, Netanyahu made it very clear who the real war-mongers are:

“It’s time to stop blaming Israel for all the region’s problems. Israel is not what’s wrong with the Middle East. Israel is what’s right with the Middle East.”

He laid it on the line:

“President Abbas must do what I have done. I stood before my people — and I told you it wasn’t easy for me. I stood before my people, and I said, ‘I will accept a Palestinian state.’

“It’s time for President Abbas to stand before his people and say, ‘I will accept a Jewish state.’

“Those six words will change history. They’ll make it clear to the Palestinians that this conflict must come to an end, that they’re not building a Palestinian state to continue the conflict with Israel, but to end it.

“And those six words will convince the people of Israel that they have a true partner for peace.”

This is the only concession that an American president should demand: recognize Israel’s right to exist!

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  • http://patriotupdate.com Ginnie Mae

    What the enemies of Israel do not seem to realize is that this land they want to destroy is Holy Land. It was given to God’s chosen people, the Jewish people – the Apple of God’s eye. When they go against Israel, including our own President who refers to himself as a Christian -yet this could not be so with his actions against God’s children – they are all going against God Himself. This land is where Jesus is from – the Son of God. This land is in God’s hand. There will conflict till the end of the ages when evil is finally extinguished by God Himself. It is the future site of the new heaven and new earth that will be for eternity to those only who love the Lord and His appearing. Fighting is useless – Israel will always win.

    • Larry Shepherd

      It is foretold that Israel will prevail regardless of who tries to wipe them out. Many Americans will not allow this attempt.

    • American muslim scum remover….

      obama is putting the U.S. in the path of destruction by going against our good and loyal friends Israel and America better wake up. We already have millions of muslims living here in America and they want sahriah law over our constitution and they are taught the koran in the thousands of mosques already here in America with more being built and completed daily and those mosques teach all muslims to kill all those who will not convert to islam and we went and voted a muslim to be our president,Americans must have a death wish.How can America have such twisted thinking as to vote a muslim to be our president after muslims killed thousands of Americans on 9/11….?America,we better wake up before we have no more America….

    • Devasahayam

      Even a pattern is actually shown–out of ten worst natural disasters to hit the US, nine occurred shortly after US pressurised Israel to give up land to “Palestinians”

      http://www.wnd.com/index.php/index.php?pageId=304105

    • http://nonepresently amirizar10

      Well put, but I don’t want to beat a dead horse or change the topic, but I wonder if PO is from this world at all. Is there a tiny electronic device in his skull receiving directions from another planet?

    • am2sweet

      American, with the number of Muslims here we’d have a large fight going on if they ever pushed things. I still fail to see how the Nazi libs can’t see that the Muslims want us dead. Imagine how stupid the gays are. Muslims aren’t tolerant of gays at all. We have let them have too much and now they think they can rule us and push their agenda on us. Since they side with the liberal Nazis their time could be limited. Most would end up back in the closets again to stay alive. Israel has been our friend for way longer than Obama’s been alive. Letting him toss them without complaining is wrong. I’m glad the Israeli PM got in Obama’s face on things.

    • American muslim scum remover….

      You are so right. I wish more Americans would just wake the ——— up. All muslims are scum sucking camel licking pig dung chewing anti American commie sucmbags and that scum profit called mohhammed,he is a child molesting scum of the earth homo camel jockey diaper wearing low life P.O.S.

    • Marie

      Ginnie mae, how right you are and also right about Gods kingdom being established here on earth… and in that direction, I feel may well be the headquarters. The jews are Gods people and we are too spiritually Gods children. We all will be working together when that time comes. Obama, truly doesn’t realize what he is messing with, when he is messing with Isreal.He should be helping them and instead he goes with our enemies. In the end they are going to lose, and some may well lose big time…their eternal lives.

    • American muslim scum remover….

      Only in America can we let muslims kill thousands of Americans on 9/11 and then we vote a muslim to be the president. Then we let our muslim president cancel our national Christian day of prayer only to have our muslim president pray 1 week later with 50,000 muslims all day long and now he stabs our good and loyal friends Israel in the back and no Christians will say anything about it. Out nation is so full of hypocrite pastors and christians who say they love the Bible and Jesus yet they will not stand for the Bible and Jesus and let our muslim president okay shariah in some parts of the country and spend our tax dollars on baby killing. (ABORATION IS BABY KILLING).Where do the pastors and christians in America stand? They hold obama higher the Jesus Christ and the Bible or they would not put up with this. Can you say hypoctire pastors and fake christians? luke warm gets you what? America has fallen to an all time low…. God help us.(For all you pastors and so called christians,I mean Jesus Christ as the God to help us).

    • D Soto

      I am one of those Christian pastors you are ignorantly bashing. Please tell me exactly how a pastor such as myself is supposed to stop Obama. Exactly what can I personally do to stop him from destroying our country, our constitution, our economy, our freedom and our alliance with Israel? Exactly what am I supposed to be doing that I am not already doing? Am I supposed to complain? I’ve done that. Am I supposed to preach from the pulpit against him? I’ve done that. Am I supposed to Pray? I’ve done that. Am I supposed to support Israel? I’ve done that! Exactly what am I supposed to do? Tell me you that are so brilliant, armchair politician/pastor/saviour.

    • Hank

      Stop whining. My pastor doesn’t bitch and moan, and if he did even half as much as you I would worship elsewhere.

      The fact is, Churches have failed us. They are supposed to be the embodiment of morality and responsibility, but all they do is look the other way and pass the buck.

      What are you supposed to do? Pastors need to tell their flocks the truth and not be ambiguous about anything. If they get fined or jailed for overstepping their tax exempt status, oh well. At least they will have made a stand.

    • http://www.reformdc.com nax777

      We (you and I) win our seats back and we can start over with a more experienced but copied Constitution. All court battles will start over again with better results.

      This story and all the cute comments and slams will mean nothing in less than 30 years. Invasion is of no consequence as long as the two parties can hold their power. The powers can change names and faces this too matters not. People’s desire for power will always remain a constant.

      It is irrational to think that any single payer social program will work. It is irrational for nations to tax its way out of poverty. It is irrational to help overpopulated poorer nations by becoming one. It is irrational to believe that a power convinced that you have nowhere else to go will do your biding.

      A true Conservative and a true Liberal agree on one thing though for different reasons. Any single payer social program is a nutty idea! Now each believes that it’s not so nutty as long as their side is managing it. Pubs and Dems call rational people cruel, heartless nut cases. Rational and irrational also no longer hold true meaning.

      Replace the powers with citizens that can be immediately removed by citizens and never serve for a life time. We must take control ourselves. Please join with us at Goooh.com you might be able to click on my name. This will take you to my link page that links to Goooh.com, NumbersUSA.com and SBA-list.org.

      P.S. Have you heard of “you cut” @ http://majorityleader.gov/YouCut/

    • wasadoc

      Well, I believe we should roll back the borders of the US, to early 1959, before Hawaii was a state, thereby making obama completely ineligible to run for president.

    • American muslim scum remover….

      Very nice, I really like that. How about we just hang the muslim scumbag for Treason. Crimes against America while serving in the white house is treason so lets just fumigate the whole stink’in white house and start over with real Americans that Love our country… America has been soldout…

  • Rob

    Where does this freeking piece of camel shit come off thinking he can tell Isreal to return to their former borders, when we keep telling him to return to his former borders of Kenya, Africa and he turns a deaf ear to us? Some one needs to go to Washington, D. C. and shove a hand full of pork chops into his muslim mouth and up his muslim back end. Then hog tie him, throw him in a body bag and send him to where he belongs.
    Everytime I see a picture of him it makes me want to hurl. I do believe tomorrow is trash pick up day. Make sure he is in it.

    • allen goldberg

      His arrogance knows NO BOUNDS!!!

    • American muslim scum remover….

      All Americans must stand together and stop voting muslim commies into office. No obama in 2012… Stop the maddness. No obama ever again….

    • SUSANM

      ALL THE COMMIES MUST BE VOTED OUT…CAN SOMEONE TELL ME WHY DO THEY HAVE A GROUP IN SENATE, CONGRESS CALL THEMSELVES COMMUNIST AMERICANS OR WHATEVER THEY SAY..

    • American muslim scum remover….

      You are correct in your comment,can you say SOLDOUT… Our elected officals we trusted to do the best job possible for the American people have sold us out…..

    • Lee

      I agree with you! One of Obama’s facial expressions reminds me of a very spoiled little boy—“If you don’t give me what I want, I’m going to hold my breath til I turn blue!”
      Or:
      “If you don’t play MY way, I won’t like you anymore!”

    • Retired USAF MSgt

      If only he would say “I’m taking my ball and going home!”

    • Kristine

      Lee,
      About O’s facial expressions; how about “I think I’ll look like Mussolini” with my head up and chin jutted out, to show what a tough guy I am. If you know your history, you’ll know that it didn’t end well for Mussolini, who, just like O wan’t a tough guy, just an s.o.b.
      The WHO’s stance on Israel came as no surprise to me as I knew he was no friend of Israel. Yet it hit home when he actually articulated it, as I have family in Israel.

    • Kaiser Bill

      You don’t know jackshit about Mussolini. You just repeat what you have heard from various biased and noncredible sources. To compare Obama to Mussolini is an insult to Mussolini. FDR and almost every president after him were each twice (or more) the Fascist that Mussolini ever dreamed of being. They used deception and misinformation to get into that position, which is worse than what Mussolini used: force. A simple comparison of the policies of these men will bear out my assertion. But then, you probably don’t have the patience to read something that conflicts with what you were indoctri…er…ah…taught in Government Schools.

      NO SARCASM! JUST PURE, UNADULTERATED SINCERITY!

    • John the Libertarian

      kaiser—your post sounds like conspiracy CRAP btw—should we seig heil you?

    • Hank

      Hey Fake Libertarian. You sound like just another New Deal Democrat.

      You also seem to be fooled by the Wilsonian BULLSHIT about how evil the Kaiser was. I chose the name because my car is an HJ Kaiser.

      The Brits and our own socialist-idealist ‘leaders’ got us into both of the unnecessary World Wars and then made up the claim DURING AND AFTER them that if we had not gotten involved that the ‘Axis’ would have taken over the entire world and turned us all into lampshades.

      The original reasons and justifications for both wars were abandoned before the fighting finished. Why don’t you ask Poland and Czechoslovakia how they liked being ‘saved’ from Hitler just to be destroyed during the war only to be ravaged and enslaved by Stalin after the war. Yep Churchill and FDR were real frickin’ heroes weren’t they?

  • Lackey

    “I (God) will bless those who bless you (Israel) and will curse those who curse you”
    (Gen 12:3)

  • nonyabusinesspa

    And Oblab Blab should be hung from the highest nearest tree, He would do the world more good if he were in a BOGY BAG!!

    • Yorkie Mom in MO

      Bogey or Body – both ar right. Golf on Memorial Day – a token honorarium to the Troops and off to play — which makes me sick to my stomach — I could not believe the arrogance of this imposter to tell Israel what Israel should do to appease the Palestinians – shoot dern – the imposter doesn’t have a clue how to manage our own border with Mexico! I sure he applauds the Hamas bases that are now in Mexico! IMPEACH this so and so now!

    • American muslim scum remover….

      If you can not lead with wisdom the greatest nation on earth,then go golfing… Look, obama has broken almost every campaign promise he has made except CHANGE. obama is changing america into a third world nation and if we keep voting these commiecrats into office then we do not love our country. Stop voting obama and stop voting for any democrat commie or America is going for a hard fall. Stop the maddness. no more obama. Treason is still a hanging offense. Where is the rest of the white house… Gone fishing for money Bribes?

    • John the Libertarian

      one good thing about obummer golfing— at least it’s time he can’t spend SCREWING UP THE COUNTRY MORE THAN HE ALREADY HAS, while he’s doing it :-)

  • nonyabusinesspa

    ooops……BODY BAG*

    • Lee

      Yep! Don’t worry about it.

  • allen goldberg

    And explain to me why the MSM cannot wrap their heads around this???

    Alan D. lays it out well.

    Obama wants to destroy, or set into motion those factors that will lead to the destruction of Israel….pure and simple.

    • Devasahayam

      Note: the correct term is LSM for LAMEstream media. Basically, their standard of research has declined precipitously (faster than the wildlife of Masai Mara) since 1960’s and their research is worthless.

      No surprise that media which could believe the words of totalitarian communist tyrants can also believe (and support) another longer-running form of totalitarianism, Islam (which has killed 270 million–including 50 million of its own adherents–in the 1400 years since it was established, including 10 million own-adherents just since 1945).

    • John the Libertarian

      hope American Jews (the dim dem ones, not the ones with common sense) vote with their common sense & wallets next election & help be a part of insuring obummer [qualifies for worst in US history] is a 1 term president…

    • Kaiser Bill

      If they do, they will go for Huntsman or some other commie-symp.

    • Brian

      The MSM or LSM is in the pocket of this LIC (Liar in Chief). They love his liberal message and have decided that he can do no worng. So far he has committed more impeachable offences than Nixon ever did yet they have not said one thing against him.

    • Hank

      Alan Douchebagowitz writes for Penthouse (That is a HARDCORE PORNOMAG for all you ignorant and sheltered 85 year old sweet Christian Grandmothers out there) and is a GUNGRABBER (just like 95% of all other American Jews).

  • http://aol Neen

    I think Obama has turned his back on Israel and at the same time the American people. I believe him to be against Israel and America and wants to destroy both of them. He is already doing it to America. I hope that the REPUBLICIANS wake up pretty soon before it is too late. There are plenty of charges you can go after him for and get him for treason. He is by far THE WORST PRESIDENT WE EVER HAD. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND ISRAEL.

    • Spar07

      I have voiced my strong concerns about all this to one of our U.S. senators and all I got in return was a copy of the original type written letter from him in response. All it said is that he will continue to fight against the waste, fraud and abuse of taxpayers dollars. He stated that he will maintain his commitment to representing us and our traditional values.
      Talking about side stepping the issues I put before him, his response was a joke as far as I am concerned, especially after the way he voted for the Patriot Act. He voted for it which prompted my anger and why I went off in the first place.

    • American muslim scum remover….

      Wake up already,America has been soldout by both parties. Get some guns and ammo,you will need it soon…. All muslims are lying two faced scum sucking camel licking pig dung chewing anti american commie scumbags and there profit mohammed is a child molester and a homo fag camel licking scum muslim. Sorry to put down camels……

    • http://patriotupdate.com ADT

      Yes, he’s doing this with the principles outlined in Piven-Cloward’s thesis – if you haven’t studied their outline for the collapse of America, do it and you will see it’s exactly what BHO is doing. Congress must wake up and we have to help!

    • All American Always

      I am with you on the impeachment of O. I cannot believe this country will impeach or try to impeach someone (Bill) for cigaring his aid (not defending him at all, everyone of those blankety blank USER politicians should be castrated); but the idea is that he was brought up on that type of behavior and O has done every single treasonous act that I can think of with no repercussions. When I enlisted in the army and went to Nam we were told of all these things that could send us to Levenworth and yet O does them as a daily routine with praise from the press. I want him gone….

    • John the Libertarian

      slick willie wasn’t brought up for impeachment because of the cigar, but rather PERJURY UNDER OATH, A FELONY you or i would have gotten imprisoned for… the dim dems in that incident showed for all time their loyalty to party over country and the rule of law when the senate refused to convict him… contrast that with the principled repubs who informed tricky dick (nixon) they could not stand behind him in impeachment proceedings… shows you who values rule of law and country before party, and who doesn’t… btw, i had the distinct pleasure (and honor) to meet Bob Barr, the georgia representative who successfully brought slick willie’s impeachment in the house— a REAL STATESMAN, and a man of courage (and i might add an unsuccessful Libertarian Party candidate for president) ;-)

  • Nancy

    BO can do all the back pedalling he wants to he was VERY specific in his thoughts that Israel’s borders should return to 1967 (he never said the negotiations should start there). But people believe everything he says. What kind of spell does he have over people I’ll never know. Just like an Anti-christ.

  • Henry

    Netanyahu, the worldly Statesman taught the inexperienced, arrogant LOUT Barack a lesson in Leadership !!

    • Lee

      I admired Netanyahu as he addressed Congress, and pointed out there are only two countries in the world who would allow dissenters to rant as the Code Pinkers did that day!
      What a class act!
      Too bad Obama missed it!

    • John the Libertarian

      AMEN, Henry

  • Al From Maine

    Obama has insulted and offended our only two friends in the world. He has slapped the Brits across the face and spit in their soup. As for our friends the Israelis he shoved a knife in their back and tossed them under the bus. I do believe that listening to the bigoted and anti-American Reverend Wright also included a lot of anti Semitism. Obama is doing all he can to bring this country down, destroying our currency, crippling us with massive debt and completely crushing our economy.

    • anthony san diego

      We have no friends, we have cheap rhetoric. When the USA stops giving foreign aid because we’re broke, who do you think will step up to the plate and defend our actions? Winston Churchill advised his constituents, “never lose America as a friend.” Why’s that Winnie? And Israel, before you start shouting anti-semitic investigate the USS Liberty incident, or rather mass murder committed by our Israeli “friends”.

    • Hank

      The lies about Israel’s ‘founding’ are still popular with the pseudoconservative social democrats (Trotskyites for the most part, with the occasional Stalinist or other Marxist, in addition to a few ignorant women like Ms. Murrel and foolish men like Mr. Duncan) that are within the ‘conservative’ movement.

      None of the Arabs wanted Israel? Not even the 711,000 Palestinians that were evicted from the area in 1947 and 1948. Or their nearly 5 million descendants.

      Israel was a wasteland that was turned into a paradise by the Jews? No, it was and still is a sandy scrap of desert that has been artificially decorated, funded by the multi billions of dollars pouring into the country by dubious outside sources (as in, they don’t even live in Israel) for three quarters of a century. I know that I am not supposed to ask it, but who were those outside sources? Answer: some of the most evil and manipulative men in the last century. War profiteers and money changers. Racists and Socialists. Men that would make George Soros blush. Men who, though Jewish, Backed Hitler in his meteoric rise to power, and then at the last minute switched sides and sold Eastern Europe down the drain. We fought WW2 to liberate the Poles. What it ended up really being about was the Zionist cause. The Poles be damned. Hitler was almost a saint compared to Stalin in what they each did to Poland, Czechoslovakia, and the rest of the world.

      Am I automatically an Anti-Semite (even though most Jews in Israel today are barely Semitic by genetic standards) for pointing out these inconvenient and documented truths, that no single person would deny if it were not for their irrational emotional idolatrous attachment to Israel?

      Why is it that India can justly throw off the British (who actually improved India), not to mention that Britain had been there for a lot longer than most of the current ‘Israelis’ have been in Palestine, let alone the Middle East, but Palestine can not justly throw off Israel?

      The answer is clear: You have a favored place in your hearts for the Jewish people. It is based solely in any three of the following: White Guilt (or at the very least misplaced and undue sympathy); Religious ignorance and/or indoctrination based on a faulty and unorthodox (in some cases heretical) interpretation of the Scriptures; or an ignorance of the History of Palestine/Israel in a broader sense. Did you know, for example, that Israel was founded by three socialist organizations who invented the modern use of terrorism in warfare. Just ask Rahm Emanuel, the ballet dancing Alinskyite. Did you know that it was the pre-Israel ionists and the British Mandate Authority that made the Mufti (basically an Islamic who allied himself with the Nazi’s after having been betrayed by the British) the leader of the area and that he killed more fellow Palestinian Muslims and CHRISTIANS that he did the Jews, whom he supposedly hated? Did you know that the Israelis were only able to destroy the entire Egyptian airforce during the Six day War because they told the Egyptians that they wanted peace and the Egyptians promised to not use their airforce? HOLLOW VICTORY that is always toued by the pro-Israeli lobby as some sort of example of Israeli military superiority, when all it was was trickery. Did you know that the Israeli army fired on one of our USS during that same war and then blamed it on the Egyptians (who had no reason to do it)? The Israelis, when confronted on the issue, claimed that they thought it was an Egyptian or Syrian vessel. This fact was disputed by the surviving crew members who were well aware of the fact that the Israelis knew they were American. It is often claimed that the Arab nations that have Palestinian refugees refuse to allow them to become citizens. The truth is that the refugees have been offered homes and citizenship several times, but they have rejected it as an unjust half measure, and by no means a legitimate compensation for the loss of their ancestral homelands and their livelihoods. For every piece of conventional wisdom on this subject, and that most folks here blindly and unquestioningly follow, their is a Truth that is as hard as steel that will smash right through it in any form of debate. The best that anyone can come up with to try and counter these is some sort of last ditch effort to appeal (in true dogooder liberal fashion) to the emotions of the sensitive and weak minded. The most common one is the claim that Israel is our ally. Last time I checked, however, our relationship with Isreal is completely one sided. we send over 4 billion dollars every year, and the best they can do to repay us is to send their lobbying groups over hear to influence our politicians to go to war or some other undue favor. Another claim is that Israel is a democracy with a stable economy. To put the lie to this one I will point out that Istrael’s economy is thoroughly socialized apart from a few token industrialized mercantilist corrupt corporations (similar to GE). Another claim is from the ignorant Bible thumpers about how this book or that book of the scriptures says this or that about the Jews. That is all malarkey. The only things that the New Testament prophesies about the Christ-killers’ descendants that continue to forsake and spit upon our Savior are the following from Matthew 27:20-26…

      But the chief priests and the elders persuaded the crowd to ask for Barabbas and to have Jesus executed.

      “Which of the two do you want me to release to you?” asked the governor.

      “Barabbas,” they answered.

      “What shall I do, then, with Jesus who is called the Messiah?” Pilate asked.

      They all answered, “Crucify him!”

      “Why? What crime has he committed?” asked Pilate.

      But they shouted all the louder, “Crucify him!”

      When Pilate saw that he was getting nowhere, but that instead an uproar was starting, he took water and washed his hands in front of the crowd. “I am innocent of this man’s blood,” he said. “It is your responsibility!”

      All the people answered, “His blood is on us and on our children!”

      Then he released Barabbas to them. But he had Jesus flogged, and handed him over to be crucified.

      Wherein we see that the Jews have accepted full responsibility for killing Jesus the Man (although it is we, as sinners, that bear responsibility for killing the Godhood of Christ). The passage prophesied their lot in life. You can say it is not fair, but then, many say the same thing about Adam’s curse, and if you are a Christian, nothing that God decrees or that is written in his Word may be considered unfair, as God is the ultimate authority on Justice.

      And from Mark 13:1-35…

      As Jesus was leaving the temple, one of his disciples said to him, “Look, Teacher! What massive stones! What magnificent buildings!”
      “Do you see all these great buildings?” replied Jesus. “Not one stone here will be left on another; every one will be thrown down.”

      As Jesus was sitting on the Mount of Olives opposite the temple, Peter, James, John and Andrew asked him privately, “Tell us, when will these things happen? And what will be the sign that they are all about to be fulfilled?”

      Jesus said to them: “Watch out that no one deceives you. Many will come in my name, claiming, ‘I am he,’ and will deceive many. When you hear of wars and rumors of wars, do not be alarmed. Such things must happen, but the end is still to come. Nation will rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom. There will be earthquakes in various places, and famines. These are the beginning of birth pains.

      “You must be on your guard. You will be handed over to the local councils and flogged in the synagogues. On account of me you will stand before governors and kings as witnesses to them. And the gospel must first be preached to all nations. Whenever you are arrested and brought to trial, do not worry beforehand about what to say. Just say whatever is given you at the time, for it is not you speaking, but the Holy Spirit.

      “Brother will betray brother to death, and a father his child. Children will rebel against their parents and have them put to death. Everyone will hate you because of me, but the one who stands firm to the end will be saved.

      “When you see ‘the abomination that causes desolation’standing where it does not belong—let the reader understand—then let those who are in Judea flee to the mountains. Let no one on the housetop go down or enter the house to take anything out. Let no one in the field go back to get their cloak. How dreadful it will be in those days for pregnant women and nursing mothers! Pray that this will not take place in winter, because those will be days of distress unequaled from the beginning, when God created the world, until now—and never to be equaled again.

      “If the Lord had not cut short those days, no one would survive. But for the sake of the elect, whom he has chosen, he has shortened them. At that time if anyone says to you, ‘Look, here is the Messiah!’ or, ‘Look, there he is!’ do not believe it. For false messiahs and false prophets will appear and perform signs and wonders to deceive, if possible, even the elect. So be on your guard; I have told you everything ahead of time.

      “But in those days, following that distress,

      “‘the sun will be darkened,
      and the moon will not give its light;
      the stars will fall from the sky,
      and the heavenly bodies will be shaken.’

      “At that time people will see the Son of Man coming in clouds with great power and glory. And he will send his angels and gather his elect from the four winds, from the ends of the earth to the ends of the heavens.

      “Now learn this lesson from the fig tree: As soon as its twigs get tender and its leaves come out, you know that summer is near. Even so, when you see these things happening, you know that it is near, right at the door. Truly I tell you, this generation will certainly not pass away until all these things have happened. Heaven and earth will pass away, but my words will never pass away.

      “But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father. Be on guard! Be alert! You do not know when that time will come. It’s like a man going away: He leaves his house and puts his servants in charge, each with their assigned task, and tells the one at the door to keep watch.

      “Therefore keep watch because you do not know when the owner of the house will come back—whether in the evening, or at midnight, or when the rooster crows, or at dawn. If he comes suddenly, do not let him find you sleeping. What I say to you, I say to everyone: ‘Watch!’”

      These words of Christ speak of the Destruction of Jerusalem in a literal sense, and the end of the world in a metaphorical sense. They also warn against the rise of false prophets and false Messiahs. The return to Israel is a false sign for these would-be prophets and Saviours. Every time in this passage that Christ seems to be pointing to Israel in a literal way, it was only for that time and place. The only application for today is to realize that ‘Israel’ is not the Jewish state, but rather the body of Christian believers.

      So when any passage of the New Testament mentions ‘Israel’, don’t be so quick to think it means the State of Israel. That is a completely false notion at odds with Two Millenia of Biblical Scholarship. Israel is a metaphorical word for Christians, and nothing else.

      Even the Talmud (which is superior even to the Old Testament in Hebrew Religious literature), which EVERY religious and even many seculart Jews follow, accepts responsibility for the willful murder of Christ on the part of the Jews.

      Passages from the Talmud, Orthodox Judaism’s Holiest Book:

      Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.

      Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.

      Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile (“Cuthean”) the wages owed him for work.

      Baba Kamma 37b. “If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite…the payment is to be in full.”

      Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile (“heathen”) it does not have to be returned.

      Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile (“Cuthean”), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.

      Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has “exposed their money to Israel.”

      Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies (“subterfuges”) to circumvent a Gentile.

      Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.

      Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.

      Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.

      Sanhedrin 106a . [Says Jesus' mother was a whore]: “She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters.”

      footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the “uncensored” text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, “Miriam the hairdresser,” had sex with many men.

      A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: “Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?–He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old.”

      Of Jesus it is written

      He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).

      He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).

      He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).

      Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in “hot excrement.”

      Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus (“Yeshu” and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu “the Nazarene”) was executed because he practiced sorcery: “It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry…He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone.”

      Kallah 51a.”The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman’s menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.

      “They said, ‘What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?’ He replied, “I will prove it concerning him.” He went to the lad’s mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.

      “He said to her, ‘My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.’ (eternal life). She said to him, ‘Swear it to me.’

      “Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, ‘What is the status of your son?’ She replied, ‘When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.’ Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.

      “It was declared, ‘..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba…”

      In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who “uncovered his head” and was conceived in the filth of menstruation). The boy’s adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in the Talmud).

      Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.

      Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament (“uncanonical books”) will have no portion in the world to come.

      Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.

      Othe bizarre passages:

      Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.

      Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.

      Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.

      Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.

      Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years “and a day” old).

      Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.

      Kethuboth 11b. “When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing.”

      Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.

      Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.

      Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.

      Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: “On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic.”

      Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy (“catarrh”) a Jew should “take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog’s excrement as it loosens the limbs.”

      Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.

      Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.

      Here are two early “Holocaust” tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. A Revealing Admission

      Abodah Zarah 70a. The question was asked of the rabbi whether wine stolen in Pumbeditha might be used or if it was defiled, due to the fact that the thieves might have been gentiles (a gentile touching wine would make the wine unclean). The rabbi says not to worry, that the wine is permissible for Jewish use because the majority of the thieves in Pumbeditha, the place where the wine was stolen, are Jews. (Also cf. Gemara Rosh Hashanah 25b).

      Erubin 21b. “Rabbi Akiba said to him, “Give me some water to wash my hands.”

      “It will not suffice for drinking,” the other complained, “will it suffice for washing your hands?”

      “What can I do?’ the former replied, “when for neglecting the words of the Rabbis one deserves death? It is better that I myself should die than that I transgress against the opinion of my colleagues.” [This is the ritual hand washing condemned by Jesus in Matthew 15: 1-9].

      Soferim 15, Rule 10. This is the saying of Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: Tob shebe goyyim harog (“Even the best of the gentiles should all be killed”).

      Kerithoth 6b: Uses of Oil of Anointing. “Our Rabbis have taught: He who pours the oil of anointing over cattle or vessels is not guilty; if over gentiles (goyim) or the dead, he is not guilty. The law relating to cattle and vessels is right, for it is written: “Upon the flesh of man (Adam), shall it not be poured (Exodus 30:32]); and cattle and vessels are not man (Adam).

      “Also with regard to the dead, [it is plausible] that he is exempt, since after death one is called corpse and not a man (Adam). But why is one exempt in the case of gentiles (goyim); are they not in the category of man (Adam)? No, it is written: ‘And ye my sheep, the sheep of my pasture, are man” (Adam); [Ezekiel 34:31]: Ye are called man (Adam) but gentiles (goyim) are not called man (Adam).”

      The Talmud states that it is not a sin to apply the holy oil to Gentiles, because Gentiles are not human beings (i.e. are not of Adam).

      Another example from tractate Yebamoth 61a: “It was taught: And so did R. Simeon ben Yohai state (61a) that the graves of gentiles (goyim) do not impart levitical uncleanness by an ohel [standing or bending over a grave], for it is said, ‘And ye my sheep the sheep of my pasture, are men (Adam), [Ezekiel 34:31]; you are called men (Adam) but the idolaters are not called men (Adam).”

      From Baba Mezia 114b: “”A Jewish priest was standing in a graveyard. When asked why he was standing there in apparent violation of the Mosaic law, he replied that it was permissible, since the law only prohibits Jews from coming into contact with the graves of humans (Adamites), and he was standing in a gentile graveyard. For it has been taught by Rabbi Simon ben Yohai: ‘The graves of gentiles [goyim] do not defile. For it is written, ‘And ye my flock, the flock of my pastures, are men (Adam)’ (Ezekiel 34:31); only ye are designated men (Adam).”

      In Berakoth 58a the Talmud uses Ezekiel 23:20 as proof of the sub-human status of gentiles. It also teaches that anyone (even a Jewish man) who reveals this Talmudic teaching about non-Jews deserves death, since revealing it makes Gentiles wrathful and causes the repression of Judaism.

      The original text of Sanhedrin 37a applies God’s approval only to the saving of Jewish lives

      Maimonides, Mishnah Torah: “Accordingly, if we see an idolater (gentile) being swept away or drowning in the river, we should not help him. If we see that his life is in danger, we should not save him.”

      Immediately after Maimonides’ admonition that it is a duty for Jews not to save a drowning or perishing gentile, he informs us of the Talmudic duty of Jews towards Christians, and also towards Jews who deny the Talmud.

      “It is a mitzvah [religious duty], however, to eradicate Jewish traitors, minnim, and apikorsim, and to cause them to descend to the pit of destruction, since they cause difficulty to the Jews and sway the people away from God, as did Jesus of Nazareth and his students, and Tzadok, Baithos, and their students. May the name of the wicked rot.”

      The Jewish publisher’s commentary accompanying the preceding statement of Maimonides states that Jesus was an example of a min (plural: minnim).

      The commentary also states that the students of Tzadok were defined as those Jews who deny the truth of the Talmud and who uphold only the written law (i.e. the Old Testament).

      Maimonides taught in another part of the Mishnah Torah that gentiles are not human: “Man alone, and not vessels, can contract uncleanness by carriage. …The corpse of a gentile, however, does not convey uncleanness by overshadowing. …a gentile does not contract corpse uncleanness; and if a gentile touches, carries, or overshadows a corpse he is as one who did not touch it.

      “To what is this like? It is like a beast which touches a corpse or overshadows it. And this applies not to corpse uncleanness only but to any other kind of uncleanness: neither gentiles nor cattle are susceptible to any uncleanness.”

      Maimonides, Mishneh Torah, Hilchot Rotze’ach 2:11: “A Jew who killed a righteous gentile is not executed in a court of law. It says in Exodus 21:14, ‘If a man schemes against his fellow man and kills the man deliberately, take him away from the altar and put him to death.’ But a gentile is not considered a man, and even more so, a Jew is not executed for killing an unrighteous gentile.”

      Sanhedrin 37a “whoever preserves a single soul of Israel, it is as if he had preserved an entire world”

      But this passage has been twisted by certain people into the rendering, “Whoever destroys the life of a single human being…it is as if he had destroyed an entire world; and whoever preserves the life of a single human being …it is as if he had preserved an entire world.”

      When confronted with accusations of racism in the Talmud, Orthodox Rabbis simply deny such passages’ existence. Such deception is in accordance with the Talmud’s Baba Kamma 113a which states that Jews may use lies (“subterfuge”) to circumvent a Gentile.

      According to Judaic Scholar Michael Hoffman, “Judaism is the religion of the Pharisees and the patrimony of Babylon, from whence the Talmudic and Kabbalistic traditions of Judaism ultimately derive. Orthodox Judaism’s other sacred book, the Kabbalah, is filled with astrological teachings, fortune-telling, gematria, necromancy and demonology.”

      That is why many Christian Scholars from identify Judaism with Babylon or the Whore of Babylon.

      He continues, “Furthermore, the Israeli “Star of David,” is actually nothing of the kind, but rather an occult hexagram, a yantra of the androgyne, which became associated with the Khazars in 14th century Bohemia. (The misnamed “state of Israel” was founded in 1948 in an alliance between Jewish Communists and atheistic Zionists, with crucial U.N. recognition provided by Soviet Communist dictator Joseph Stalin).”

      See the following:Matthew 23:13-15; I Thess. 2:14-16; Titus 1:14; Luke 3:8-9; Rev. 3:9.

      If you read them and understand them and still blindly support Israel and Judaism and Zionism, you blaspheme the name of Christ at your own peril.

      You would be surprised at some of the stuff I have left out for the sake of women and children that might read this. The damning passages here are comparatively inoccuous next to some of the things said by modern Rabbis and Zionists.

    • Vic

      Excellent post. Trouble is, even if you show evidence and facts, most Christians who support Israel as the chosen people will still think you are bad for posting such information as evidenced by your low rating.
      I am going to keep a copy of your post.

    • Hank

      Hey Vic.

      You are probably the only one that read the whole thing. Fortunately, one need not read even 10% of it before becoming more informed of the facts than 99% of the posters here.

      No one else even addressed my points. And they claim that they support Israel?

      I love my fellow Christians, but let it be known to them that ISRAEL as a State and all of it’s higher level supporters are FALSE PROPHETS, which are warned about, as a general group, all throughout the Bible.

      Christ’s Kingdom is made up of the faithful, not an overglorified oasis the size of Rhode Island. When the New Testament speaks of Israel, it means Christians, not The State of Israel 1948-? Only Pharisees and fools believe that Christ came first for the Jews and then for the rest of us smelly flea bitten scruffy subhuman gentiles.

      By the way, the Rhetoric in the above posting is all mine, but the Talmudic passages were put into the above order by someone else.

  • http://namaholston@aol.com shell holston

    Just as Netahyahu said Israel’s borders (Jordan) have to be protected so do our borders have to be protected, but OUR president is doing NOTHING about that! I admire the leader of the Jewish Nation and the way he presents his cause. It is clear he cares about the Nation which has suffered so much in the past 4,000 years and again since becoming an accepted Country. We need them and they need us.

    • Lee

      Do you think the Israelis would let us borrow Mr. Netahyahu for a little bit to show the right road to Congress?

    • Bree

      Agreed, Prime Minister Netanyahu is the greatest leader in the world today. In fact I think he is the greatest man on planet earth that I have ever seen. God has surly blessed his people with such a man as this. God bless Israel forever!

    • Hank

      You sound like Monica Lewinsky talking to Bill just before the BJ.

      You are one sick Bitch, you know that?

      It reminds me of Chris Matthews and his leg-tingles from Obama.

  • Neal Boy

    If I remember correctly, Israli and American Jews were GAGA over him in 2008. I guess they thought they could control him and the Anti-Semite Democratic Party. I would think they know better now. I HOPE they CHANGE.

  • Yorkie Mom in MO

    I saw an interesting cartoon today – the Eagle as a symbol has temporarily been replaced by a black and white SKUNK! Everything he does stinks! We need to get the skunk out of the WH and restore the Eagle to it’s rightful place! It is my sincere prayer that God will hear our voices and protect and continue to Bless Israel and America!

  • Old Vet

    This CRAP about the jews behaving like those in europe during WWII is totally wrong. The jews WHEN THEY TOOK BACK THEIR HOMELAND only defended what was theirs. As for the “treatment” of non jews, it’s pure crap. Where are the “death camps” the “ovens” the “mass graves”? All supposedly done by the jews. I pray that God will one day do again to the eneimies of the jews and maybe this world will have real peace.

    • Hank

      Those are not the only things involved in genocide. Moron. Just like a liberal to sensationalize such a morbid subject.

  • http://none Karl

    It proves that our President is not read up on the history of the Middle East. I think he dislikes Jews and others there who have made money.

  • Donald Barnes

    WHY IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA GOING
    THROUGH ALL THESE DIFFERENT STORMS ?

    AMERICA, IF WE BLESS ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM,
    THEN GOD ( NOT allah ) OF ABRAHAM, ISSAC
    AND JACOB WILL BLESS AMERICA !
    BUT WHEN WE CURSE ISRAEL AND JERUSALEM THEN
    GOD WILL CURSE ALL OF US !

    THAT man , obama , STOP CURSING GOD’S LAND
    ISRAEL AND GOD’S PEOPLE , THE JEWS!

    • Hank

      So God sent the tornadoes to Missouri and Oklahoma and Arkansas to punish America for not supporting Israel?

      Donny, pal, you are demented.

      Any relation to Fred Barnes? Perhaps his inbred born-again ex-Jew cousin?

  • stevor

    So typical in discussions/arguments about Israel, if you disagree with what Israel is doing, you’re “anti-Semitic”. Helen Thomas, who IS a Semite, disagrees with what Israel (actually, the Zionists, who are NOT all the Jews) so that type of blanket statement is as old as when those who don’t agree with O’Bummer are called, “racist”.

    Israel attacked the USS Liberty, trying to sink it, so we would blame Egypt and fight Israel’s war against Egypt. If that’s what our “strongest ally/friend” is like, I’ll choose to not have any friends.

    • John the Libertarian

      correction, stevor- if I remember corrctly, it was either an accident (most likely reason as the US is Israel’s greatest ally & benefactor) OR, it was to nudge US monitoring ships out, not your conspiracy CRAP…

    • anthony san diego

      So it’s okay in your book to commit mass murder in order to “nudge” monitoring ships who were in international waters out of the area? It wasn’t an accident either. But it’s okay if you want to keep the blinders on and ignore the fact that Israeli’s attacked and murdered defenseless American seamen; and I guess it’s also okay that LBJ ordered Naval rescue aircraft to return to their ships because, in his words, “We can’t insult our Israeli friends”. Investigate before you respond, I’m certain you do not want to appear to be supportive of barbaric behavior.

    • Kristine

      Anthony,
      Ive never heard of this incident you mentioned.
      No nation is blameless of such acts. America included.
      It is hard for us to imagine being Israelis who are in a constant state of hyper-vigilance and almost a siege mentality surrounded by hostile countries and their military forces. maybe there is a reson Israel acted as it did at that time.

    • John the Libertarian

      anthony, i too was upset about the israeli attack… however, the assertion by the sailors does not PROVE that it was so… point of fact the jets were probably traveling about mach 1.5 (about a thousand miles per hr)… surely you’ve heard the term ‘friendly fire’— our forces have done it frequently in the past (less so now that ‘friendly radio beacons are on our equipment)… remember the pilots were engaged in combat operations in a war… something when adrenaline is hightened & combat fatigue is rampant with long periods of combat… perhaps the pilot may have thought our craft a soviet ship aiding the egyptians?

    • Hank

      John, there is no reason whatsoever to believe that it was an accident based on the information available to the Israelis. It is known that the Israelis were toying with the communications systems of the Liberty. If that doesn’t indicate that they knew about it and who it was, then nothing does.

      Regardless of whether they meant it as a warning or an act of deception or an act of war, what they did was not the action of a beloved ally.

      For a ‘Libertarian’, you sure are pretty intervention-minded.

    • John the Libertarian

      thanks for a little more info, Hank… btw, by being in favor of intervention ( as you know libertarians are generally opposed to), were you alluding to OUR presence?

    • Hank

      Our presence in the Suez Canal or close by? Not intervention in my book. Quite frankly, if Israel and the Palestinians just started finishing each other off tomorrow, I could care less. No intervention for me! Having said that, the USS Liberty was ordered there by its superiors and was subsequently fired upon by our supposed then-ally, whose only qualm with us involved their many attempts to downplay or coverup their misdeeds and massacres. We can play this game for a while, but the fact remains that you are on the side (by virtue of rhetoric, if nothing else) of interventionists, if only in this one particular case involving Israel, but I say screw them all for always and ever! Allies are fine, but does our nation need even one crack whore welfare slut to be dependent on it? No! Dump Israel! Dump Pakistan! Dump the Ukraine! Dump Kenya! It is not just about saving money! There are legitimate foreign policy concerns pertaining to the unintended (or so we are told) consequences in intervention, whether War or Foreign Aid. By the way, I am not a conspiracy nut (as you alluded to in an above comment). However, I am perfectly convinced that there are some people and organizations that are pulling a lot of this crap on purpose and then lying about it. Also, I would never go the Alex Jones (whom I despise. He gives a bad name to just about everyone and everything, friends and foe alike) Urinate-in-someone-else’s-mouth-while-drunk-as-an-act- worshipping-Baphomet-at-the-Bohemian-Groves path when accusing someone of being a part of some larger scheme.

    • anthony san diego

      It’s apparent that “John the Libertarian” believes ignorance is bliss. Your statement about the USS Liberty is correct, several years ago I was in touch with one of the survivors.

    • John the Libertarian

      anthony, ignorance is of course NOT bliss… grateful for Hank’s clearing up about Israeli radio awareness/ interference… never have too big a head to be called on the carpet & CORRECTED, gentlemen…:-)

    • Hank

      Also, John, my apologies on calling you fake. I know us Libertarians (not a member of any party, personally, nor am I a big fan of the LP, although there are some redeeming qualities) take that more seriously than most others. We strive (at least in our own minds) to be the most philosophically consistent members of the body politic,even if it occasionally makes us look nutty to those that have sucked in the conventional wisdom.

      I think perhaps that our disagreement on Israel has less to do with our respective interpretations of our philosophy than it does with some other factor. I, personally, as a Christian, am opposed to all non-Christians. This does not mean that I hate them or wish them dead. To me, there is no differenced between a Jew and a Muslim in regards to how I should view their religion. The entirety of the Talmud, the principal book of Modern Judaism, was written 150+ years after Christ’s death, and so, as a Christian, I cannot accept it as a legitimate part of Judaism, which to me is the religion of the Tanakh (Old Testament) Jews, who more or less ceased as an entity at around 70 AD (when the Temple was destroyed). This makes Modern Judaism only slightly older than another fake (in my opinion, as a Christian) religion: Islam. The Mishnah part of the Talmud was compiled circa 200 AD. The Gemara part of the Talmud was compiled circa 500 AD, about 132 years before the Koran was finished. The way that I see it, the Rabbinical/Talmudic Jews set themselves up as the main competitors to Christianity amongst people who followed the Tanakh. So when people think that the Modern Jews are the same people as the Ancient Israelites, hey may have a point genetically, but not when it comes to the religion. Modern Jews interpret the Old Testament in ways that would make a Gnostic or a Cathar blush. Rabbis have more authority than even God, in the Talmud. That is why I have no respect for Modern Judaism or the ‘Christians’ out there that blindly accept it as the progenitor of Christianity.

      That is where I am coming from. I suspect that you are coming from more of an Anti-Islamic approach. There is nothing wrong with that, especially his day in age. I see nothing wrong with a simple alliance with Israel to help counter the threat (which is real and dangerous, but at times hyped and sensationalized by the Media and certain Neocons) of Islamo-Fascism. But you can only go so far before this is foreign intervention, not to mention he correlation to the steady erosion of liberties back at home.

      So, on intervention, I am sure we are both in full compliance. But, in how we view the people (Israelis, Jews, Arabs, Muslims) that certain people (the military industrial complex for one) would like us to interfere in the affairs of, we don’t quite see eye to eye.

      Cheers

  • perfectlyaged

    Obama stands alone on the world stage and has the world laughing at America!
    He is the most arrogant, self-serving, self-centered and self-adulating President that I have ever seen. I have been a registered and voting democrat for almost sixty years…I did not vote for Obama nor will I vote for him this time!
    To my black and latino friends, please do your research and find out what Obama promised and what he has carried through with. You are creating a world for your children and grandchildren.

  • BIRTHER

    I admit it sadly: I feel threatened. For the first time in many years I feel that I am in danger.(FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY ADULT LIFE) I am afraid that the night-mare may start all over again………Elie Wiesel

  • wolffb

    As the days, weeks and months pass, i am finding myself increasingly worried and depressed over the treatment of Israel by the countries and peoples of the world. As they rant and rave against the nation of Israel and its 7 million Jews, i find myself getting more and more upset with every passing day. Why do seemingly decent people accept the slander against Israel while totally ignoring the truth of the situation. To that end, i would like to discuss and address certain issues.

    1. What is wrong with Zionism?

    In many circles, the latest thing is to call Zionism racism. Nothing could be further from the truth. The Jewish people asked for nothing but the small area of their historical homeland to shelter their people after two thousand years of antisemitism and a Holocaust that killed six million of my fellow Jews. We have been up front from the very beginning that we wanted to return to our ancestral homeland to build a Jewish state. We don’t seek to force anyone to live in Israel or force anyone to convert to Judaism. Why do people have so much trouble accepting one tiny Jewish state the size of Rhode Island yet they have no issue with the 53 (at latest count) Islamic Nations that dot our planet. Unlike Israel, these same Islamic nations force their religion on others, persecute non-believers, restrict religious freedom, enslave women and allow polygamy. They have supported and financed terrorism around the globe. The 53 Islamic states seek to rule the world with a sharia enforcing, Islamic global caliphate yet it is the Jewish nation of Israel that is called racist. This is backwards and totally insane, but the Muslims have the oil and not the Jews. It seems that after two thousand years of similar behavior, a Jew hating world that guzzles oil like it is going out of style is always going to blame Israel for all the middle east’s problems. The truth be damned.

    2. If Israel is so awful then why do almost 2 million Arabs stay there and cling to their citizenship?

    There are almost 2 million Arabs living with Israel’s almost 7 million Jews. They enjoy full citizenship and legal rights plus they have several benefits that Israeli Jews don’t even enjoy. Arab Israelis do not have to serve in the Israeli military and they enjoy several tax exemptions that are only for Israeli Arabs. Yet they have full elected representation in the Knesset, they are entitled to attend Israeli universities and they seek employment in the Israeli economy. One wonders why they don’t move to Gaza or the West Bank if Israel is so awful. Are they remaining in Israel to subvert and destroy the world’s only Jewish nation. If this is the case, one must ask why the Israeli government or people should put up with anyone who is trying to destroy their nation. Would any other sane nation on earth tolerate 20% of its population actively trying to overthrow their nation? I seriously doubt it and i wonder why only Israel is expected to show patience and tolerance to their citizens who refuse to assimilate and participate in the nation as it was designed to exist. Let us not forget, it was a vast majority of the nations of the world who voted Israel into existence as the homeland of the JEWISH people in 1948 and it was the Arabs who refused a state of their own at the same time.

    3. Why is racism and Jew hatred tolerated and overlooked in the West Bank and Gaza?

    In the West Bank and Gaza Jew hate, race baiting and out right anti-antisemitism are the language that is fluently spoken along with Arabic. Children are taught Holocaust denial and Jew hate in school from first year until graduation. Town squares and stadiums are named for terrorists who blew up and killed Jewish men, women and children. Entire families have generations of terror activities as best represented by the families of the two teenage madmen who butchered an entire Jewish family down to the three month old baby. They boast of three generations of so called heroes who died trying to kill Jews or succeeded in killing Jews. They were totally proud of their behavior and pray to their g*d to be allowed to kill more Jews. This is what Israeli Jews have to live with on a daily basis yet they are called racists. This is insane. Are the non-Islamic nations of the world so afraid of Islam and terror that they have willingly become dhimmis and turned a blind eye to the truth. Of course, it is easy to condemn the Israelis for defending themselves against 60 plus years of non-stop wars and terror attacks. They don’t have any oil to sell the world and after all, they are only Jews.

    4. Why does the world tolerate and accept lies from the Arabs?

    Abu Mazin, the so called Palestinian prime minister wrote his PhD thesis on Holocaust denial. He not only said less than 800,000 Jews died in WW2 but he said they only died because the Zionists conspired with the nazis to kill Jews so they would gain sympathy for a Jewish homeland. This is a vile and disgusting lie yet Abu Mazin is called a “respected historian” by the New York Times and a moderate world leader. No mention is ever made of his Jew hatred, Holocaust denial or his participation in the Munich Olympic massacre of Jewish athletes. Yet Israelis are vilified in the world press as the worst war criminals and racists who ever lived for trying to stop they Arabs from over running their tiny nation. They are expected sit sit down and negotiate away the nation of Israel to an Arab Terrorist. They have survived several wars of aggression by the 50 million plus Arabs who surround them and said they would push all the Jews into the sea to drown. The Arabs claim they only want a nation for the Palestinian people, yet they refuse to accept the truth of history. They claim the Palestinian people are 9000 years old, they claim there was never a Jewish temple and they even claim all the Jewish prophets were actually Muslims. They violate and desecrate Jewish cemeteries and use the gravestones to build the walls of public toilets in the counties they rule. They turn one Jewish holy site after the other into a mosque, violating one international agreement after the other yet they are never called upon to stop. Only the Jews are sanctioned over and over for make believe crimes while the Arabs lie about and belittle 5000 years of Jewish Torah and History. Do we really need to have a repeat of the Muslim prophet beheading 800 Jews before the world gets the message or does the world even care if the “pesky Jews” finally just disappear?

    5. When will the Pals tell the truth about the refugees?

    When will the other Arab nations accept responsibility and give full citizenship to the 5 million refugees living like slaves in camps in various Arab countries. No, it is easier to blame Israel than accept the fact that the other Arab countries actually bear full responsibility for the state of the refugees. About 100,000 Arabs fled Israel in 1948 after the Arab press started running fake stories greatly exaggerating a very ugly incident at Deir Yassin and deliberately terrified the Arab population of Israel into fleeing. The original intent was to agitate the Arabs in Israel into joining the invading Arab armies but this backfired when all the Arabs courageously chose to flee and ended up in Jordan. This is historical truth and is taken directly from many of the Arabs who fled. Even when the Arabs themselves admit the truth, it is over looked by the world and the Jews are blamed. No mention is every made about the over 1.2 million Jews who were thrown out of Arab countries without even their household goods after Israel became a nation in 1948. No mention is ever made about compensation for the Jews but they expect Israel to welcome 5 generations of Arab refugees to Israel which would forever erase the existence of the Jewish nation of Israel. This is nothing but a bloodless Holocaust by deliberately over running a nation with outsiders of a totally different ethnic and religious background. The intention is nothing short of turning Israel into another Muslim country. It would be suicide for Israel and the world knows it. Yet they are still trying to force Israel to accept 5 million Muslim refugees in a peace settlement with the Palestinians. If there is a such need for a nation of Palestine then why wouldn’t the refugees go there? The simple truth is that the creation of the nation of Palestine is not intended to be the end of the Arab-Israeli conflict. It is intended by the Arabs to be the first stage in the total elimination of Israel.

    6. The truth about Jerusalem

    Probably the most serious issue for Jews is the Arab demand for half of Jerusalem as their capitol. The Arabs do not seek to have a capitol in Jerusalem because they really care about Jerusalem. They seek to have a capitol there, to quote one of their own leaders, to cut the heart out of the Jewish soul. They know how important Jerusalem is to every single Jew. Have we not been praying,”Next year in Jerusalem” for almost 2000 years as a Jewish people. The Arabs came to Jerusalem in the 7th century AD in a war of conquest. Until, 1967, it was fought over and religious worship was limited for whatever side lost in whatever war was being fought at the time. It is only since 1967 when Jerusalem became the undivided Jewish capitol of Israel, that every religion of the world has had unlimited rights of religious freedom. The Israelis reclaimed Jerusalem in 1967 after surviving a war of invasion by several Arab nations and winning back their ancestral lands. Why does the world want to pretend that history never happened and get a rollback to the days of Jordanian rule of half of Jerusalem when they tore up Jewish headstones to build the walls for their soldier’s latrines? The world knows that the Jews built the city of Jerusalem as their capitol thousands of years ago and yet they want us to give it back to the very people who persecuted us non-stop for the last 1500 years. This is madness and would be the equivalent of spiritual suicide for the Jewish people. The Arabs have 1 billion people and over 5000 times the land of Israel. Why do they need to tear the ancient city of the Jews in half except out of spite, malice and the desire to conquer and crush the Jewish people.

    Folks, the nation of Israel with its undivided capitol of Jerusalem is not going to disappear of its own free will. The only sanctuary of safety for the world’s remaining 20 million Jews sits surrounded on all sides by nations sworn to its destruction. The truth is that the Muslim world will never accept a Jewish nation, sprung from the ashes of Islamic conquest, in their midst. They will do everything in their power to destroy Israel. They have the oil and they are blackmailing a gutless world into helping them destroy Israel inch by inch. Everyday we see the rapes and honor killings of Muslim women, the burning of churches, the killing of Coptic Christians and the vilification of the nation of Israel yet the Muslims are never called to task. It is this unwillingness to see the truth and the lack of courage to stand up to Muslim tyranny before it is too late that will lead to another Holocaust for the Jews and WW3 between the west and the Muslims. If you think this is really just about tiny little Israel then, my friend, i say you are a fool. We as a civilized world are confronted by a hostile, barbaric and primitive religion that wants to rule the world. Israel is just a stop on the way on their mission to force the world to worship Allah. If you think it is about Israel then you are deceived and you will soon be just another Dhimmi. Its time to stop buying into the lies and the brainwashing. Put any instinctive anti-antisemitism you may have aside. If you like living in a free world, its time to stand up for Israel and the Jewish people.

    • Devasahayam

      Muslim perversion of truth is not at all new. They demanded a separate nation in 1930’s and 1940’s from British India (so that they would not be visited with the fruits of their 600 years of misrule of South Asia), and even then over a third of the Muslims didn’t want the nation that was created (they declared that by staying put in current India–and their population since 1947 has increased from 31 million to 220 million). They consider even the most benevolent overrule by non-Muslim as tyranny, but the worst tyranny of Muslim rulers (and most of these make Robespierre look like a choirboy) as ideal–and NEVER do they address the question of how they treat non-Muslims, nor even their own. (the fact that Muslim governments killed over 10 million Muslims since 1945, never addressed).

    • John the Libertarian

      THANKS, wolffb… didn’t have time to read all (later tonight will finish)… you have laid down INDISPUTEABLE facts, and it’s nice to have us gentiles educated from a jewish perspective… I share your concern about islam’s agenda for it’s universal caliphate and imposition of sharia upon us all, and view it as a very grave danger (and present for Europe, soon for us if dim dems like whoopi don’t wake up)…the dim dems comment about some American Jews was meant to refer to THEM ALONE, NOT ALL AMERICAN JEWS (i am a past and hopefully future member of Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership- admitting gentiles -like me-who support the Bill of Rights 10 amendments FOR ALL)… also have met & called Allen Gottlieb from 2nd Amendment Foundation (a sterling Jewish American ceaseless defender of our right to bear arms)…

    • http://subcutaneous.org CTHULHU

      There’s not a court in the US that would endorse sharia law. So thinking Islamic Law has a place in the US is FAR from reality and would never happen. We have a far greater chance of having the 10 Commandments put in court houses or made in to Law and that would be a DISASTER! Christians have far more political pull than Islam. But then there’s really very little difference between Islam, Christianity and Judaism anyway when you look at their delusional beliefs side by side. People just FEAR Islam more because they’re willing to die for their beliefs and Christians and Jews are not.

    • wolffb

      Six million Jews died for their beliefs including over 200 of my relatives in the holocaust. The difference is not that muslims are willing to die for their faith but that they are willing to indiscriminately murder as many innocents as possible in the process.

    • John the Libertarian

      READ THE NEWS cthulhu— SOME LOWER COURTS HAVE ALREADY ALLOWED SHARIA— case in Michigan that permitted a wife seeking protection from an abusive husband*(by US standards- NOT sharia standards) to be adjudicated in favor of the result being determined by the local imam… AND THAT’S NOT ISOLATED— THERE HAVE BEEN SEVERAL OTHERS… and as far as your IGNORANT (i won’t sat stupid unless you willfully persist in ignorance) assertion of the similarity of islam, judaism and christianity- i respectfully urge you to read the 9th sura, about the counseling of muhammed (pNbuh) to kill non muslims— where do you see that in contemporary Jewish and Christian practice today? Or how about the stoning for adultery, or amputation for theft? or the killing of jews or christians who decide to leave the faith? or christian/ jewish polygamy? or the requiring for a women to prove rape of 4 male witnesses? or the desire to impose BY FORCE, the religious beliefs of Christians and Jews upon the rest of the world in a universal religio/political imposition (AND i’m NOT talking about Christian REACTION to muslim conquests 6-8 centuries ago— i’m talking about CLEAR AND PRESENT DANGERS NOW

    • John the Libertarian

      Thanks, again, wolffb— finally had time to read your entire post… You are spot on about everything (except the ’67 war WAS a preemptive- and i’d say JUSTIFIED strike by Israel after Egypt’s closing of the Red sea)… But more importantly, now, IT IS IMPERATIVE to recognize the truths you have elaborated on about the dangers (and goals) of a revived fundamentalist islam, and it’s goal of UNIVERSAL IMPOSITION UPON ALL MANKIND of sharia law, and a universal religio/ political caliphate, destroying human liberty, and especially subjugating ALL women, and non muslims

    • Hank

      John,

      There was already negotiation talks between Israel and Egypt to reopen the Red Sea (which is a better way to solve a problem than a war) when the Israeli’s struck.

    • Julie

      You are totally right about everything you stated and any one who reads history would know that. Hate against the Jewish people has been going on since they became a people and it in any form comes from Satan. He knows that they are the key to all of Gods plans and Satan has been trying to destroy them forever. The world is ruled by Satan and if people do not believe and follow the Lord, they are blinded by Satan and believe the lies told them by the world. So anyone who is against the state of Israel and the Jewish people is a follower of Satan, for the Jews are Gods chosen people. We will never see an end to this until are Savior Yeshua{Jesus} comes back and conquers Satan and puts all his enemies under his feet. All who come against the Jewish nation will fall, we have GODS word on that and he does not lie.

    • Kristine

      To wolffb,
      BRAVO!! Eloquently said. I stand with Israel !! I recognize and agree with you that if Israel falls, the West, including the United States, is not far behind.

    • All American Always

      Dear Wolffb;
      Thanks so much for taking the time for the great letter. I am an American Christian and totally believe in what the Lord says in the Bible. The Israellies are his people and the muslims have been trying to kill all of both of our people for centuries.
      For all of you that believe that this is not true I feel very sorry for you. To defend our country (USA) we need to defend Israel. The Lord has stated the same. I just completed reading the coran (in english) and it is very clear what the muslim goal is; total conversion or death to the non-believers. As Christians we also believe in total conversion to Christianity but only out of LOVE for our fellow man and their spiritual life. We pray that they will see the SON under free will; not under threat of physical death. We leave the non-believers to God to handle.
      Our country is under muslim attack just as your’s is and we have one more problem; we have a muslim marxist president trying to help the muslims take control.

    • Hank

      1. What is wrong with Zionism?

      Zionism is Racism. Though latent today, in the early years (1800s-1987), the goal of Zionists was to GHETTOIZE themselves in Europe at a time when Anti-Semitism was just going out of style, to colonize an Arab inhabited land (it is irrelevant whether it was a ‘nation’ or not), removing the proprty owners by any means necessary, rarely peaceablyor justly, and once having injected their Khazarite Quasi-Semitic Asses into a completely Semitic, Arab land. If any non Arabs got in the way, even if they were generally pro-Jewish, it did not matter if they were American, British, French, German, etc., they were taken out.

      Historical homeland? When? 70 AD? And that is only if accept the dubious claim that European Jews were all descended from the Ancient Israelites, and not from the Turkic Khazar converts.

      The best way to end Anti-Semtism is assimilation. Instead many Jews insist on ghettoizing themselves. They suffer from the delusion that theyu are the Chosen People, which is an obvious contradiction of the New Testament, and not entirely in linewith the Old Testamnet either.

      Many of these Islamic ations have sprung up as a backlash to Soviet, UK, and US intervention. Most of the worst thugs that rule over there were put there by the West, somtimes with the approval of Israel. As for all that other stuff. Who cares? I’ll tell you who: Just a bunch of Interventionists and neocons that wish to turn the worlds eye away from Israel’s sins.

      2. Two million Arabs live there because and only because they have stood up for themselves and defended their rights against the Jewish invader. They ‘refused’ to have a ‘state’ of their ‘own’ because it required them to give up half of their territory for a state for the invader that had had absolutely no presence there for more than 1700 years.

      3. Racsim and hatred in the West Bank and Gaza is not ignored. It simply pales in comparison to that of Israel through the decades. Jews have had plenty of their own acts of terrorism. They have memorials and bridges named after army officers and Irgun terrorists that have indiscriminantly mowed down entire villages outside of Israeli territory in times of peace.

      4. What Arab lies? Oh, you mean the ones that originated not with the Arabs or even with anti-Semites, but with qualified historians, some of whom ahd Jewish heritage? Only a nation can face sanctions. The Palestinians are not a nation, thanks, in large part’ to Israel. You pissand moan about the Torah, yet you make no mention of the Talmud, the principle book in the modern Jewish religion. Why is that? Is it perhaps because it gives you permission to lie to us Goy in order to attain your objectives? Is it that the Talmud gives all authority to the Rabbis even when they are at odds with God in their teachings or rulings? Is it that you are ashamed of those passages that put us Gentiles and Christians lower in the Jewish social order than cattle or corpses?

      5. It is not the Arab Nations’ ‘responsibility’ to do anything about the refugees. It is Israel that displaced them and it is Israel that is responsible. I do realize that shirking responsibility is approved by the Medieval Rabbis as long as it doesnot directly harm a member of the Jewish community. Which part of Deir Yassin was exagerated? Was it the women and children? Or Was it the violation of a truce with absolutely no provocation and with the approval of David Shaltiel (a relative of mine, in fact), a Haganah commander? I wish I could address the other circular logic and hyperbole in point five, but I am running out of time.

      6. Jerusalem is a side issue. It does not matter why they want it. The fact is that they have a more legitimate claim to it than the ‘Israelis’. Cutting out the heart of Israel and making a capital out of it are one and the same thing for a determined people with justice on their side.

      YOU, AN INDOCTRINATED ISRAELI, SIMILAR TO AN INDOCTRINATED AMERICAN, HAVE ABSOLUTELY NO CREDIBILITY. YOUR CLAIMS HAVE ABOUT AS MUCH VALIDITY AS A COLLEGE STUDENT CLAIMIN THAT FDR SAVED AMERICA FROM THE GREAT DEPRESSION. IT IS NOTHING MORE THAN A GENERALLY ACCEPTED LIE!

    • wolffb

      Hank, total left wing anti Israeli lies. your hatred of Israel is well known on this blog and its pointless. the Muslims were there because they invaded and conquered. they were not native to the region and the current crop of arabs who are there are the children of workers brought in by the British for cheap labor from other arab countries.

      your “Khazarite Quasi-Semitic Asses” comment is disproven racist Jew hating theory. as to your claim the Jews put themselves in ghettos, that is right out of Abu Mazin’s holocaust denial text and is also a vile, Jew hating lie.

      Keep spewing your lies and hatred. it really does you credit as a human. you are a perfect example of why Israel must remain strong and vigilant against the propaganda and hate being spread as part of the never ending campaign to demonize the Jewish people.

      by the way, good job of totally evading any discussion of why the muslims can have 53 islamic nations and continue to spread their violent, hostile, supremacist religion with impunity.i hope you are a muslim or they will roll over you in the end as well if they have their way with the world.

    • wolffb

      one final point hank old buddy. you neglect to mention that many of the same arab nations that you champion were created from other people’s land in the early 20th century by the British and the French. Lebanon,Jordon, Iraq and Saudi Arabia just to mention a few. If anyone is really to blame for the mess in the Middle East it is the British followed closely by the french not the Jewish people who desired to return to their conquered homeland.

      the same world and U.N. that is now the champion of rights of the so called Palestinians is the body that created the state of Israel in 1948.You want it all your way. A Palestinian nation created by the U.N. for arabs but you condemn the nation created for the Jews by the very same U.N..

      You use slander, insults and distortions of the truth to belittle the Jewish people and their aspirations and in the same breath, you welcome the arabs to use the very same methods to get themselves yet another Islamic state. Would you also line up to help push the Jews into the sea or is your solution to create 7 million new Jewish refugees by tearing down the nation of Israel?

      Bottom line here: YOU LIE and palastine is Jordon. so to put it as rudely as you did with your nastiness and sniping,im done with you, i dont agree with you and i find your opinions to be dishonest and hateful. that said, i remove all thoughts of hank the jew hater from my mind forever. bye fool.

    • John the Libertarian

      sorry you have to endure such tripe from hank, wolffb… just goes to show the old saying, when you can’t defeat them with facts, dazzle them with bull*hit… actually, i became more aware of them with the MUSLIM chechen rebel slaughter of grade schoolers at Breslen; you mentioned also the family more recently slaughtered… not to mention in the countries around Israel the rabid hate filled indoctrination of children against Israel & us… anyone abusing children forever losses any sympathy from me

    • John the Libertarian

      What a tawdry WORTHLESS, IGNORANT REPLY to wolffb’s post… wake up Hank, or ENJOY YOUR DHIMMI STATUS LATER…

    • Bree

      As Christians we have a Biblical obligation to defend Israel and the Jewish people in their time of need. Israel’s time of need is now. There is a new Hitler in the Middle East who has threatened to wipe out Israel and America and is rapidly acquiring the nuclear technology to make good on his threat. During the Holocaust, too many Christians were silent, and we were left to mourn the slaughter of 6 million Jews. Today, we must know that it is more important than ever for Israel’s friends to stand up and be counted. We must get it right this time. Our faith demans it,the times require it, and Silence is not an option! We must act and send a strong message that Americans are standing with Israel at this critical juncture.

  • http:Google C.B.

    Ginniemac;;God bless you and yes,,Israel has always been sacred to God and was Jacobs’heritage from the begining. Even though the Israeli’s may have to go through some tribulation they will still emerge in the end as God’s chosen people and the other evil nations will finally see that God’s word is the last word. ” I am Alpha and Omega “. Stand strong in your beliefs my friends and know that our Lord is on our side;; and he will make things right ; even though it may feel hopeless at present. And Wolffb? I will always stand for the Jewish people.

  • TE DEUM

    Pray for the promised land.

  • http:Google Connie B.

    And Birther;;;I can relate to your fears. I know I have been feeling vulnerable myself lately. There are so many; even close family members and friends that will not see through this shadow man’s facade. Let us become of one mind now;;strong and resilient towards changing this nightmare into a channel of hope. Do not allow them to scare you ;;; lest the Demons win. I will pray for you too receive added strength and a reinforcement of needed faith? You are not alone!! God bless.

  • http:Google Connie B.

    TE DEUM; I have been praying all along. Believe me our prayers will be answered soon.
    Perhaps not as we would assume ,but then again God works in mysterious ways and I would never presume to speak for him. We may see things that are truly unbelievable and horrifying in the months to come, but it’s hard to see past our physical state of being and really see the whole scope of matters from God’s perspective. I just rely on faith and know that he knows what’s best for us and will see us through. As he promised: I am with you always. I try never to lose sight of this.

    • http://subcutaneous.org CTHULHU

      I wonder if you’d feel the same way if you or your child got cancer. I guess you’d just say ‘God knows best’? What if Israel got nuked and a million people died? I guess that would just be God saying he doesn’t care about the Jews, like he did during WWII with the Nazi’s?
      If you can learn to THINK PAST your faith, you’ll realize that the reason terrible things happen and prayers are not answered is because GOD is a purely MAN-made invention. People create Gods to please themselves and as a way to help them understand mysterious things in the Universe.
      Faith is believing what you KNOW is not true. It’s another way of communicating ignorance.

    • John the Libertarian

      as a genuine agnostic (the branch that says i don’t know rather than it is unknowable- i’m still on that journey), i take great umbrage in militant atheists putting down believers… why don’t you leave your put downs for political opinions, AND NOT QUESTIONS OF FAITH???

  • sharyn Winick

    not sure how to take this.there must be some truths in there somewhere but answers many questions about POTUS

    http://usataxpayer.org/htm/vids.asp?A=19064260&ncid=40397123

  • http://www.unmitigatedtruth.com Unmitigated-Truth

    I don’t know if President Obama is ignorant of the history of Israel and Islam, or he is doing this fully aware of it.

    Either way, I have put together a Cliff Notes version of the history on my blog. I will be sending a link to the White House just in case.

    See: http://www.unmitigated-truth.com/2011/05/truth-about-islam-vs-israel-why-muslims.html

  • http://subcutaneous.org CTHULHU

    What makes me nauseous is the CONSTANT bickering between religious FOOLS who think they are entitled to land because it’s ‘holy’. It’s no more ‘holy’ than a COW TURD, and it’s about time religious fools, whether it’s Muslims, Christians or Jews learn how to get over their religious entitlements and be grateful and humble about what they have right now! I think Obama (and the rest of sane non-religious society) is just sick of the constant whining from the religious and the violence that goes hand in hand with religious genocidal ideology.

    Israel needs to fight it’s OWN wars and if these religious fools want to live surrounded by people who hate her, she should be prepared to live with the consequences. Same with the genocidal Islamic terrorists and Christiain evangelicals. Surely these delusional fools who believe in the nonsense of ‘Holy Land’ can be educated and taught that ‘Holy Land’ is just a delusional entitlement theory that ALL religion’s dream up in order to steal land that rightly belongs to ALL of earth’s inhabitants, not just those who subscribe to a particular religious ideology or superstition!

    • wolffb

      the critics of religion seem to always forget the one thing that makes the Jewish faith different than the other major religions of the world. WE DO NOT SEEK TO CONVERT ANYONE TO OUR FAITH. EVER. PERIOD. Although we will accept a voluntary convert for marriage or deeply felt spiritual reasons, we have never once sought a single convert to Judaism. So please remove Judaism from your list of religions out to rule the world. We only want a tiny piece of what is our ancestral homeland as a safe haven for our fellow Jews. We were there long before Islam was even a remote dream in Mohammed’s fevered mind and we have every right to aspire to live there. Any Jew who wants to become an Israeli citizen is welcome in Israel and believing in g*d is not required. only being Jewish is required. Again, i want to know why the world has such an issue with Jews living in the land of their fore-fathers; a place no bigger than Rhode Island. The arabs have over 5000 times the land of Israel yet they want to take Israel away from the Jewish people. I call that hate. No one is telling the muslims they can’t have 53 Islamic nations yet the world screams holy hell over the tiny land of Israel wanting to be the Jewish nation. Isn’t it time to leave the Jews alone and get on to something else. Like the real violence sweeping through Africa thanks to Islam that is killing millions. or the left wing traitor in the White House who lied his way to the presidency and is ruining our country.

    • Hank

      That is because religious Jews are racists that believe that they are the only chosen people, and that the Goy (non Jews) are not even descended from Adam, and that converting them is against God’s intentions. Jews simply are not motivated to convert the Gentiles because they hate them.

    • John the Libertarian

      you must have had a pretty bad childhood to hate jews as much as you do, hank… personally, i’ve never had bad experiences there, and even if i did, it would be that individual… i did work for a small company owned by Jews, however- the 3 brothers lost over 60 of their relatives in the holocaust-your hate filled opinions are not so much to be considered rationally, but to be PITIED for the STUPIDITY and hate they espouse

    • Hank is back

      So Jews are the only race in the world incapable of racism?

  • Vern Nay

    Everyone knows that hollywood is run by a bunch of queer loving liberal Jews.Now that obama has taken a stand against Isreal it will be interesting to see how the cesspool called hollywood will react to him.Surely they will not continue to support him.

    • JVB

      Oh, I don’t think it will change much. These Jews are reprobate. They have been deadened to the signs of their own demise by flattery and money. I fully expect them to support Obama…even as he herds them to yet another mass elimination. Hollywood is doomed. I’m watching to see what the rest of the world’s Jews do.

    • John the Libertarian

      WHAT… is it a full moon that all the BIGOTS come out?

  • KE Wentworth

    It is unfortunate that Mr. Obama is so bigoted and ignorant. I suggest a tenure in Dachau or Auschwitz for him and Mrs. “I have never before been proud of my country!”!!!!! A nice long tenure.

    Whatever became of the “Office of Protocol” or are they just too arrogant to take instruction. That fool has embarrassed this country from one end of the world to the other!!! First he has to be lectured by the Netanyahu and then the Queen of England — what an ass he made of himself. I did get a good laugh over their seating him next to Camilla, the mistress turned wife. ROFLMAO

    Now before someone calls me a racist, no way, I would vote for Condoleeza Rice or Alan West in a heart beat but never for Colin Powell.

    Of course now that its “election time” he finally shows up at Arlington Cemetery. What a farce!!!

  • L.J.

    GOD and GOD alone will defend Israel, but Obama and the hate-mongering muslims seem to forget that. Also, anyone ever wonder WHY the U.S. is falling apart and going to hell? It’s all right here and needs no explanation: “I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse; and all peoples on earth will be blessed through you.” Genesis 12:3 NIV

    • Hank

      The Nation of Israel and the Christ Deniers amongst the Jews are a stench in God’s Nostrils.

      Only Christians, regardless of heritage,are God’s chosen people according to the New Testament.

      Romans 10

      1 Brothers and sisters, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. 2 For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 3 Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness. 4 Christ is the culmination of the law so that there may be righteousness for everyone who believes.

      5 Moses writes this about the righteousness that is by the law: “The person who does these things will live by them.”[a] 6 But the righteousness that is by faith says: “Do not say in your heart, ‘Who will ascend into heaven?’”[b] (that is, to bring Christ down) 7 “or ‘Who will descend into the deep?’”[c] (that is, to bring Christ up from the dead). 8 But what does it say? “The word is near you; it is in your mouth and in your heart,”[d] that is, the message concerning faith that we proclaim: 9 If you declare with your mouth, “Jesus is Lord,” and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved. 10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved. 11 As Scripture says, “Anyone who believes in him will never be put to shame.”[e] 12 For there is no difference between Jew and Gentile—the same Lord is Lord of all and richly blesses all who call on him, 13 for, “Everyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved.”[f]

      14 How, then, can they call on the one they have not believed in? And how can they believe in the one of whom they have not heard? And how can they hear without someone preaching to them? 15 And how can anyone preach unless they are sent? As it is written: “How beautiful are the feet of those who bring good news!”[g]

      16 But not all the Israelites accepted the good news. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our message?”[h] 17 Consequently, faith comes from hearing the message, and the message is heard through the word about Christ. 18 But I ask: Did they not hear? Of course they did:

      “Their voice has gone out into all the earth,
      their words to the ends of the world.”[i]

      19 Again I ask: Did Israel not understand? First, Moses says,

      “I will make you envious by those who are not a nation;
      I will make you angry by a nation that has no understanding.”[j]

      20 And Isaiah boldly says,

      “I was found by those who did not seek me;
      I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me.”[k]

      21 But concerning Israel he says,

      “All day long I have held out my hands
      to a disobedient and obstinate people.”[l]

      Footnotes:
      Romans 10:5 Lev. 18:5
      Romans 10:6 Deut. 30:12
      Romans 10:7 Deut. 30:13
      Romans 10:8 Deut. 30:14
      Romans 10:11 Isaiah 28:16 (see Septuagint)
      Romans 10:13 Joel 2:32
      Romans 10:15 Isaiah 52:7
      Romans 10:16 Isaiah 53:1
      Romans 10:18 Psalm 19:4
      Romans 10:19 Deut. 32:21
      Romans 10:20 Isaiah 65:1
      Romans 10:21 Isaiah 65:2

      Galatians 3

      Faith or Works of the Law

      1 You foolish Galatians! Who has bewitched you? Before your very eyes Jesus Christ was clearly portrayed as crucified. 2 I would like to learn just one thing from you: Did you receive the Spirit by the works of the law, or by believing what you heard? 3 Are you so foolish? After beginning by means of the Spirit, are you now trying to finish by means of the flesh?[a] 4 Have you experienced[b] so much in vain—if it really was in vain? 5 So again I ask, does God give you his Spirit and work miracles among you by the works of the law, or by your believing what you heard? 6 So also Abraham “believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”[c]

      7 Understand, then, that those who have faith are children of Abraham. 8 Scripture foresaw that God would justify the Gentiles by faith, and announced the gospel in advance to Abraham: “All nations will be blessed through you.”[d] 9 So those who rely on faith are blessed along with Abraham, the man of faith.

      10 For all who rely on the works of the law are under a curse, as it is written: “Cursed is everyone who does not continue to do everything written in the Book of the Law.”[e] 11 Clearly no one who relies on the law is justified before God, because “the righteous will live by faith.”[f] 12 The law is not based on faith; on the contrary, it says, “The person who does these things will live by them.”[g] 13 Christ redeemed us from the curse of the law by becoming a curse for us, for it is written: “Cursed is everyone who is hung on a pole.”[h] 14 He redeemed us in order that the blessing given to Abraham might come to the Gentiles through Christ Jesus, so that by faith we might receive the promise of the Spirit.

      The Law and the Promise

      15 Brothers and sisters, let me take an example from everyday life. Just as no one can set aside or add to a human covenant that has been duly established, so it is in this case. 16 The promises were spoken to Abraham and to his seed. Scripture does not say “and to seeds,” meaning many people, but “and to your seed,”[i] meaning one person, who is Christ. 17 What I mean is this: The law, introduced 430 years later, does not set aside the covenant previously established by God and thus do away with the promise. 18 For if the inheritance depends on the law, then it no longer depends on the promise; but God in his grace gave it to Abraham through a promise.

      19 Why, then, was the law given at all? It was added because of transgressions until the Seed to whom the promise referred had come. The law was given through angels and entrusted to a mediator. 20 A mediator, however, implies more than one party; but God is one.

      21 Is the law, therefore, opposed to the promises of God? Absolutely not! For if a law had been given that could impart life, then righteousness would certainly have come by the law. 22 But Scripture has locked up everything under the control of sin, so that what was promised, being given through faith in Jesus Christ, might be given to those who believe.

      Children of God

      23 Before the coming of this faith,[j] we were held in custody under the law, locked up until the faith that was to come would be revealed. 24 So the law was our guardian until Christ came that we might be justified by faith. 25 Now that this faith has come, we are no longer under a guardian.

      26 So in Christ Jesus you are all children of God through faith, 27 for all of you who were baptized into Christ have clothed yourselves with Christ. 28 There is neither Jew nor Gentile, neither slave nor free, nor is there male and female, for you are all one in Christ Jesus. 29 If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham’s seed, and heirs according to the promise.

      Footnotes:
      Galatians 3:3 In contexts like this, the Greek word for flesh (sarx) refers to the sinful state of human beings, often presented as a power in opposition to the Spirit.
      Galatians 3:4 Or suffered
      Galatians 3:6 Gen. 15:6
      Galatians 3:8 Gen. 12:3; 18:18; 22:18
      Galatians 3:10 Deut. 27:26
      Galatians 3:11 Hab. 2:4
      Galatians 3:12 Lev. 18:5
      Galatians 3:13 Deut. 21:23
      Galatians 3:16 Gen. 12:7; 13:15; 24:7
      Galatians 3:23 Or through the faithfulness of Jesus … Before faith came
      New International Version

  • Marc Jeric

    Abu Hussein al-Nairobi (or whatever Kenyan hellhole that marxist Muslim was born in) is doing exactly what is expected from him: destruction of Israel, and communization of America. What is uncomprehensible to me is that American Jews voted and will vote again for him in 2012.

    • Hank

      Mombassa, not Nairobi.

  • JVB

    Jews had better wake up. Gentiles can’t go on protecting them if they insist on electing the very people who hate their guts. I always wondered how it could have been so easy to get 7 million Jews to agree to their own destruction….now I think it might just be because they are willfully blind to danger until it’s too late to scream for help.

  • Transparency Now

    May Israel live long and prosper. The lies and deceit must stop.

    • Bree

      Yes, long live Israel and peace (shalom) be within her walls and prosperity within her gates. “I HAVE POSTED WATCHMEN ON YOUR WALLS,O JERUSALEM; they will never be silent day or night. You who call on the LORD, give yourselves no rest, and give him no rest till he establishes Jerusalem and makes her the praise of the earth.” AMEN

  • ruth

    When people understand the real truth about the synagogue of Satan (Rev 2-9 and 3-9,10) then there will be peace in the world..
    Both Muslims and Christians have twisted the Bible and say Jews are this synagogue of Satan though it says Synagogue of Satan is positively not Jews but those posing as Jews..

    The entire scenario of synagogue of Satan is a counterfeit of God’s works with man..It is Islam..It’s doctrine begins with Abraham-Ishamel.. Islam claims the prophets and old covenant teaching as their foundation… Then they graduate to their counterfeit of New covenant with their false messiah Mohammed and their false new covenant gospel Koran..

    Islam is the synagogue of Satan.. God even dubbed it synagogue to show that Satan is counterfeiting the Jewish doctrines including CHristianity which is founded on Judaism and the Jewish apostles..And he is attempting to prove his followers are the real Jewish sons of Abraham…This is why Satan’s Hitler and Ishamel’s descendants and ISlam have tried to annihilate the Jews.. He thinks the absence of Jews will prove Ishmael was the chosen line and he himself will be proven to be the god of Abraham..

    When God said synagogue of Satan he meant Satan himself would profess to be the god of Abraham and the same god the Jews worship….

    The TRUTH will set the world free

    • Hank

      Satan is evil. All real evil. Evil Muslims. Evil Jews. Evil Christians. Evil Atheists.

      It is the Jews and no one else that have twisted the Jewish religion. Their Talmud contradicts the Tanakh. The New Testament is the ONLY fulfillment of the Tanakh (Old Testament).

      Talmudic Jews reject God’s covenant except when it benefits them materially.

    • wolffb

      its sad you are so hateful. i am a messianic Jew who believes in Jesus for your information. not a Talmudic Jew. Christ lived by the Torah and i only wish i could emulate his diligence and faith. i will keep trying while you keep hating.

  • B R Smith

    TRUTH does not require your belief in it in order for TRITH to be true, CTHULHU!

  • Brian

    If he wants Israel to go back to its 1967 borders, maybe we should go back to our July 1959 borders. After all, 49 states are really enough for this country. We could give Hawaii back to the Hawaiian people. The vote to become a territory and even a state was rigged in the first place, so it would only be “fair” in the minds of the liberals to do that.

  • proudamerican

    The Israelis are not stupid. They know all they have to do is wait for a legitimate president here to take over and they can then go back to normal. I hope that theory works for us as well.

  • http:Google Connie B.

    It seems like someone has always got to play Devil’s advocate. And it’s useless to argue with a foolish person who obviously has a gigantic chip on their shoulder. So I won’t argue with the Atheist..God bless America.

  • http://aol.com sean murrey

    I will stand with Isael fu obummer.

  • ARCHANGEL

    America should return yo its August 20th, 1959 Borders, then HAWAII wouldn’t be a State and obama wouldn’t be a citizen! Nuff Said!

  • Chuck

    My question to all the Jews in this country: November 2012 is fast approaching. Will you, as you have en mass in the past, vote Democrat or will you switch to the Republican side? Go Democrat, which I believe most of you will, and you will help ensure Obama a second term. Switch to Republican or abstain from voting, which I firmly believe you WILL NOT do, you can help ensure Obama is removed from office. I believe the majority of the Jews in this country WILL vote Democratic. If that’s the case Israel will definitely need the wrath of God to protect it.

    “I will bless those who bless you, and whoever curses you I will curse…” Genesis 12:3 NIV

  • wolffb

    As a Jew i would like to share an important idea with my fellow bloggers. There are many complaints made about liberal, left wing American Jews who support Obama and hate Israel. It is time to understand that these are people who may be born to a mother who was Jewish but unless they accept the torah as an essential testimony of Jewish law and faith, they are no longer really Jews. Many of these self hating Jews are in fact practicing Atheists who happen to have been born to Jewish parents. They are no more Jewish than the pope in the opinion of most practicing Jews. Lets stop calling these vermin Jews and call them useful idiots instead. and you are hearing this from a torah loving, Israeli supporting American Jew.

    • Hank

      Torah believing Jews don’t believ in Matrilineal descent. Only Talmudic liars like you do. Stop pretending to be on the side of all of the Christians here by always bringing up the Torah.

    • wolffb

      unlike Hank, i am not full of hate. i don’t need to pretend to be on someone’s side to win their support. if someone agrees with me fine. if they don’t fine unless they attack me and lie about what i have said like hank ha done.

      Hank has spread these well rehearsed, leftist, anti Semitic sound bytes around this blog for years. His hatred of all things Jewish and constant distortion of segments of carefully selected incomplete bible verse is well known here. He is quite proficient at using snippets of bible verse taken out of context to spread his lies. However a lie is still a lie and hank is simply a hate filled liar.

      he accuses others of using their faith to spread lies while he is the one who is spreading the same old revisionist lies the anti Semites in the Vatican have used for 1500 years to persecute Jews.

      When hank said “The Nation of Israel and the Christ Deniers amongst the Jews are a stench in G*d’s Nostrils. Only Christians, regardless of heritage,are G*d’s chosen people according to the New Testament.”

      he showed us all what he is really all about. False Christians who defy the teachings of a loving Jesus to spread hate against the Jewish people have used lines like that for over 1500 years to dispossess and murder us. When you call Jews “The stench in G*ds nostrils” you lose the right to be taken seriously and are now grouped among the vilest of anti-Semites.

      Even though i totally disagree with you, until i read your “stench” quote i was willing to go back and forth with you in a civil manner. Now i can only tell you i despise your way of thinking and i consider you to be lower than a germ.

    • Bree

      Dear wolffb, I agree with every word you have said concerning Hank and although I have seen many forms of hate, his is the worst of it all. He is the stench in God’s nostrils and as you say, a very vile anti semite, and I believe the very persona of evil, full of satan. Remember we do not wrestle against flesh and blood but against this power of darkness. I have been to Israel 3 times and I am a strong member of CUFI (Christians United For Israel)which has 550,000+ members. Am strong supporter of Benjamin Natanyahu and the IDF. You are my brother as I have many Messianic Jewish brethern and you cannnot imagine how you are loved and respected by thousands of Christians. Please keep speaking to us and it is the Truth we are hearing when you do. I salute your courage and wisdom and pray God’s blessing upon you and everything you do. Our beloved Israel is blessed by the LORD of HOSTS!

    • wolffb

      Bree

      thank you so much for your kind words and your prayers.

    • wolffb

      To resolve any argument, and put to rest the vile slander from hank that Jews are not true Semites and are really forced converts from the Turkic Khazar, here is the statement issued by the people who did the landmark study of Jewish DNA.

      “A study of haplotypes of the Y-chromosome, published in 2000, addressed the paternal origins of Ashkenazi Jews. Hammer et al.[39] found that the Y-chromosome of some Ashkenazi and Sephardic Jews contained mutations that are also common among Middle Eastern peoples, but uncommon in the general European population. This suggested that the male ancestors of the Ashkenazi Jews could be traced mostly to the Middle East.”

      They proved that European Jews have Middle-Eastern, Semitic ancestry. The lies that Israelis are not even real Jews that Hank and his ilk spread are found mainly on Islamist and neo-nazi sites and are vehemently disputed by all responsible authorities on the subject as pure hate speech.

    • John the Libertarian

      hank- your poison (hate) is repulsive… seriously, have you considered a bullet to the head to end your misery (AND OURS) ???

    • John the Libertarian

      thanks, wolffb for ANOTHER refutation of hanks demented racism on the DNA… but frankly, i just feel like Rodney King after the LA riots- “WHY CAN’T WE ALL JUST GET ALONG TOGETHER” ( and, yes, i know Rodney King despite the vicious attack was also a criminal, but his quote still has reason to it)

  • ARMYOF69

    If all the retired US Military , got together and weoponized , went to support Israel, we would be an enormous help. It would send a signal to all the muslim nations surrounding Israel that they may indeed be going to see their 76 “virgins” , very shortly.

    • John the Libertarian

      with all due respect, ARMY OF 69, it’s 72 VIRGINS ( AS IN A HALF GROSS) LOL

  • American muslim scum remover….

    What will you all do if the black panthers stop you from voting if you do not vote obama? Is acorn going to count the votes and soros will double check the count? America has been soldout and most americans will do nothing. Better get yourself some guns and lots of ammo friends because you are goona need them… All muslims are scum sucking pig dung chewing camel licking two faced anti American commie scumbag homos.

  • Kaiser Bill

    Only a few people make any of those claims about the Israel of today. The Israel of Yesterday, however, was basically Nazi Germany in every respect, even the occult, barring the gas chambers. And that was only because the world was weary of them (gas chambers) and Israel needed the world’s support. All of the other areas of foreign and domestic policy that Nazi Germany and Israel, circa 1947-1987, could have had in common, they did.

    Dershowitz is just another warmongering liberal masquerading as a peace loving conservative.

    All Neoconervatives are Trotskyites. They admit it and they are proud of it. That makes them only slightly better than the Stalinists on the left.

    • John the Libertarian

      seig heil, again, kaiser???

  • Bree

    Most all of us (Patriots) agree that it is essential to support Israel no matter what the leadership of our country says or does and there is something we can do that I feel is being overlooked perhaps in all of our saying. We need action in support for Israel as we do for America. The time is running out and I believe that when we are considering who to vote for (anyone against Obama) the only correct and important thing to consider is which candidate is pro Israel? As a true Christian and believer I therefore urge you to first of all seek the candidates that have on record that they are pro Israel and only vote for those candidates. We must make a stand as the people of God and the people of America. We cannot afford to do anything less or I’m afraid we will parish.

    • Hank

      Why is it essential? Because Zionists and wingnut Pseudo-Christians say it is? Israel has absolutely no relevance to our security. There is no strategic reason whatsoever for us to care one wit about it.

    • Bree

      Hank, you are clueless and EVIL personified. Every word from your mouth is filthy lies and you are completely deceived. I rebuke you in the name of the LORD, go preach your doctrine of demons in hell.

    • John the Libertarian

      hank- used to feel Israel had no strategic relevance to us till i read this- “The ikhwan [muslim brotherhood] must understand that their work in America is a kind of grand Jihad in ELIMINATING and DESTROYING the Western civilization from within and “sabotaging” its miserable house by their hands and the hands of believers SO THAT IT IS ELIMINATED and God’s religion IS MADE VICTORIOUS OVER ALL OTHER RELIGIONS” from documents submitted @ the holyland foundation trial- uncontested by the defense— what has this to do with us & Israel? The muslim brotherhood is a world wide muslim revival movement that intends to subjugate US ALL under sharia law… as such, Israel is in territory they regard as dar al islam- once conquered by islam, supposed to be in perpetuity in islam… as such, Israel forms as a natural ally to us (even without biblical quotes)

    • Hank is back

      Did you say intervention?

  • Old Vet

    What Europeans need to realize is Israel is DOING what they must do. Never again will there be a holacaust. If the people of Africa were to do the same against the whites of Europe, If the people of south and central America were to do the same, IF the NATIVE AMERICANS in N. America were to do the same, it would ALL be called the same thing……….NEVER AGAIN……….Israelies are the only people who have ACCOMPLISHED what so many around the world would like to be able to do. KEEP THEIR HOMELAND, SAFE…….

    • Bree,CUFI

      Yes Old Vet, I agree with you. We believe that the Jewish people have a right to live in their ancient home land of Israel, and that the modern State of Israel is the fulfillment of this historic right. We maintain that there is no excuse for acts of terrorism against Israel and that Israel has the same right as every other nation to defend her citizens from such violent attacks. That is why we pledge to stand with our brothers and sisters in Israel and to speak out on their behalf whenever and wherever necessary until the attacks stop and they are finally living in peace and security with their neighbors.

  • wolffb

    I wonder what the next big lie will be that Jew haters tell about Israel? I recently had one lunatic tell me in a private email that there were never over 1 million Jews who were forced to leave the arab nations after 1945, penniless with the clothes on their backs, who mainly fled to Israel. He told me there were never any Jews in any arab countries because they had been 100% muslim since allah created the earth 10,000 years ago.

    He went on to tell me the “Jewish pigs and apes” in the stolen lands of the palastinians had forged over a million citizenship and immigration forms for a million non-existent Jewish refugees from the arab lands.

    This is the kind of hatred, slander and un-truth that Jews and the nation of Israel are forced to contend with every single day of their existence by mindless savages who want every single Jew dead.

    Israel of 2011 is a modern miracle and a major economic success despite spending the vast majority of its annual budget on defending themselves from 50 million hostile arabs who surround them. Imagine what Israel could accomplish if the arabs would simply recognize Israel as the single Jewish nation along side the 53 Islamic nations. Countries that are governed by religious law under sharia, so to object to Jewish nation is nothing but total hypocrisy on the part of 53 islamic Nations. Imagine the prosperity for the entire middle east if the arabs could just get over the fact that the Jews have a right to their country and stop trying to destroy Israel. Why the world calls Israel racist for wanting to be a Jewish nation while accepting all the islamic nations with open arms tells a lot about just how little the world cares for Jews. They go where the oil is and the Jews be damned.

    • wolffb

      Its time to demand full compensation for every Jew and non muslim forced to leave their homes in arab countries as a pre condition to the creation of any Palestinian state. It time the world stops sweeping arabic ethnic cleansing of all non muslims under the rug and demands full compensation for the millions and millions of non muslim victims from these oil glutted billionaires.

    • John the Libertarian

      wolffb— from my posts, you can tell i’m in your corner… as a peace lover myself (a big hot air balloon with the POW logo was a real rubicon for me), i can understand the heart felt hope of Jews in Israel and the disapora for peace… it is deeply troubling to me personally, tho, because of the doctrines of islam for conquest, and the concept of dar al islam (and the offensiveness of putting mosques over conquered religions sacred places -like the al aqsbar [sp] mosque on the temple grounds {despite their belief that mohammed rose into heaven from there})… it is deeply troubling for me because, i really see no hope because of the unbelievable stubbornness of the other side… and their unmitigated hatred… hope i’m wrong, but don’t think so…btw any ‘peace agreement’ with them would also have to be considered in their doctrine of lying to advance the cause of islam- taqiyya

    • Bree,

      I have appreciated your comments John and your wisdom and heart for the Jews. You do have great understanding and compassion for God’s people and your fears are justified concerning the muslims. We are aware of the tremendous threats of Islam and we pray daily for the Jewish people and for Israel. God is a very strong Defense and He will protect and preserve his name sake.

    • John the Libertarian

      THANKS, Bree… as an “i don’t know” agnostic as opposed to a “that God is unknowable” agnostic, i wish to express a heartfelt “God Bless YOU”… i have enjoyed your gentle, positive, faith based posts, always… John

  • wolffb

    Deuteronomy Chapter 6 דְּבָרִים
    א וְזֹאת הַמִּצְוָה, הַחֻקִּים וְהַמִּשְׁפָּטִים, אֲשֶׁר צִוָּה יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵיכֶם, לְלַמֵּד אֶתְכֶם–לַעֲשׂוֹת בָּאָרֶץ, אֲשֶׁר אַתֶּם עֹבְרִים שָׁמָּה לְרִשְׁתָּהּ. 1 Now this is the commandment, the statutes, and the ordinances, which the LORD your God commanded to teach you, that ye might do them in the land whither ye go over to possess it–
    ב לְמַעַן תִּירָא אֶת-יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ, לִשְׁמֹר אֶת-כָּל-חֻקֹּתָיו וּמִצְו‍ֹתָיו אֲשֶׁר אָנֹכִי מְצַוֶּךָ, אַתָּה וּבִנְךָ וּבֶן-בִּנְךָ, כֹּל יְמֵי חַיֶּיךָ–וּלְמַעַן, יַאֲרִכֻן יָמֶיךָ. 2 that thou mightest fear the LORD thy God, to keep all His statutes and His commandments, which I command thee, thou, and thy son, and thy son’s son, all the days of thy life; and that thy days may be prolonged.
    ג וְשָׁמַעְתָּ יִשְׂרָאֵל, וְשָׁמַרְתָּ לַעֲשׂוֹת, אֲשֶׁר יִיטַב לְךָ, וַאֲשֶׁר תִּרְבּוּן מְאֹד: כַּאֲשֶׁר דִּבֶּר יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵי אֲבֹתֶיךָ, לָךְ–אֶרֶץ זָבַת חָלָב, וּדְבָשׁ. {פ} 3 Hear therefore, O Israel, and observe to do it; that it may be well with thee, and that ye may increase mightily, as the LORD, the God of thy fathers, hath promised unto thee–a land flowing with milk and honey. {P}
    ד שְׁמַע, יִשְׂרָאֵל: יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ, יְהוָה אֶחָד. 4 Hear, O Israel: the LORD our God, the LORD is one.
    ה וְאָהַבְתָּ, אֵת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ, בְּכָל-לְבָבְךָ וּבְכָל-נַפְשְׁךָ, וּבְכָל-מְאֹדֶךָ. 5 And thou shalt love the LORD thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy might.
    ו וְהָיוּ הַדְּבָרִים הָאֵלֶּה, אֲשֶׁר אָנֹכִי מְצַוְּךָ הַיּוֹם–עַל-לְבָבֶךָ. 6 And these words, which I command thee this day, shall be upon thy heart;
    ז וְשִׁנַּנְתָּם לְבָנֶיךָ, וְדִבַּרְתָּ בָּם, בְּשִׁבְתְּךָ בְּבֵיתֶךָ וּבְלֶכְתְּךָ בַדֶּרֶךְ, וּבְשָׁכְבְּךָ וּבְקוּמֶךָ. 7 and thou shalt teach them diligently unto thy children, and shalt talk of them when thou sittest in thy house, and when thou walkest by the way, and when thou liest down, and when thou risest up.
    ח וּקְשַׁרְתָּם לְאוֹת, עַל-יָדֶךָ; וְהָיוּ לְטֹטָפֹת, בֵּין עֵינֶיךָ. 8 And thou shalt bind them for a sign upon thy hand, and they shall be for frontlets between thine eyes.
    ט וּכְתַבְתָּם עַל-מְזֻזוֹת בֵּיתֶךָ, וּבִשְׁעָרֶיךָ. {ס} 9 And thou shalt write them upon the door-posts of thy house, and upon thy gates. {S}
    י וְהָיָה כִּי יְבִיאֲךָ יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ, אֶל-הָאָרֶץ אֲשֶׁר נִשְׁבַּע לַאֲבֹתֶיךָ לְאַבְרָהָם לְיִצְחָק וּלְיַעֲקֹב–לָתֶת לָךְ: עָרִים גְּדֹלֹת וְטֹבֹת, אֲשֶׁר לֹא-בָנִיתָ. 10 And it shall be, when the LORD thy God shall bring thee into the land which He swore unto thy fathers, to Abraham, to Isaac, and to Jacob, to give thee–great and goodly cities, which thou didst not build,
    יא וּבָתִּים מְלֵאִים כָּל-טוּב, אֲשֶׁר לֹא-מִלֵּאתָ, וּבֹרֹת חֲצוּבִים אֲשֶׁר לֹא-חָצַבְתָּ, כְּרָמִים וְזֵיתִים אֲשֶׁר לֹא-נָטָעְתָּ; וְאָכַלְתָּ, וְשָׂבָעְתָּ. 11 and houses full of all good things, which thou didst not fill, and cisterns hewn out, which thou didst not hew, vineyards and olive-trees, which thou didst not plant, and thou shalt eat and be satisfied–
    יב הִשָּׁמֶר לְךָ, פֶּן-תִּשְׁכַּח אֶת-יְהוָה, אֲשֶׁר הוֹצִיאֲךָ מֵאֶרֶץ מִצְרַיִם, מִבֵּית עֲבָדִים. 12 then beware lest thou forget the LORD, who brought thee forth out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
    יג אֶת-יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ תִּירָא, וְאֹתוֹ תַעֲבֹד; וּבִשְׁמוֹ, תִּשָּׁבֵעַ. 13 Thou shalt fear the LORD thy God; and Him shalt thou serve, and by His name shalt thou swear.
    יד לֹא תֵלְכוּן, אַחֲרֵי אֱלֹהִים אֲחֵרִים–מֵאֱלֹהֵי, הָעַמִּים, אֲשֶׁר, סְבִיבוֹתֵיכֶם. 14 Ye shall not go after other gods, of the gods of the peoples that are round about you;
    טו כִּי אֵל קַנָּא יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ, בְּקִרְבֶּךָ: פֶּן-יֶחֱרֶה אַף-יְהוָה אֱלֹהֶיךָ, בָּךְ, וְהִשְׁמִידְךָ, מֵעַל פְּנֵי הָאֲדָמָה. {ס} 15 for a jealous God, even the LORD thy God, is in the midst of thee; lest the anger of the LORD thy God be kindled against thee, and He destroy thee from off the face of the earth. {S}
    טז לֹא תְנַסּוּ, אֶת-יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵיכֶם, כַּאֲשֶׁר נִסִּיתֶם, בַּמַּסָּה. 16 Ye shall not try the LORD your God, as ye tried Him in Massah.
    יז שָׁמוֹר תִּשְׁמְרוּן, אֶת-מִצְו‍ֹת יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵיכֶם, וְעֵדֹתָיו וְחֻקָּיו, אֲשֶׁר צִוָּךְ. 17 Ye shall diligently keep the commandments of the LORD your God, and His testimonies, and His statutes, which He hath commanded thee.
    יח וְעָשִׂיתָ הַיָּשָׁר וְהַטּוֹב, בְּעֵינֵי יְהוָה–לְמַעַן, יִיטַב לָךְ, וּבָאתָ וְיָרַשְׁתָּ אֶת-הָאָרֶץ הַטֹּבָה, אֲשֶׁר-נִשְׁבַּע יְהוָה לַאֲבֹתֶיךָ. 18 And thou shalt do that which is right and good in the sight of the LORD; that it may be well with thee, and that thou mayest go in and possess the good land which the LORD swore unto thy fathers,
    יט לַהֲדֹף אֶת-כָּל-אֹיְבֶיךָ, מִפָּנֶיךָ, כַּאֲשֶׁר, דִּבֶּר יְהוָה. {ס} 19 to thrust out all thine enemies from before thee, as the LORD hath spoken. {S}
    כ כִּי-יִשְׁאָלְךָ בִנְךָ מָחָר, לֵאמֹר: מָה הָעֵדֹת, וְהַחֻקִּים וְהַמִּשְׁפָּטִים, אֲשֶׁר צִוָּה יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ, אֶתְכֶם. 20 When thy son asketh thee in time to come, saying: ‘What mean the testimonies, and the statutes, and the ordinances, which the LORD our God hath commanded you?
    כא וְאָמַרְתָּ לְבִנְךָ, עֲבָדִים הָיִינוּ לְפַרְעֹה בְּמִצְרָיִם; וַיֹּצִיאֵנוּ יְהוָה מִמִּצְרַיִם, בְּיָד חֲזָקָה. 21 then thou shalt say unto thy son: ‘We were Pharaoh’s bondmen in Egypt; and the LORD brought us out of Egypt with a mighty hand.
    כב וַיִּתֵּן יְהוָה אוֹתֹת וּמֹפְתִים גְּדֹלִים וְרָעִים בְּמִצְרַיִם, בְּפַרְעֹה וּבְכָל-בֵּיתוֹ–לְעֵינֵינוּ. 22 And the LORD showed signs and wonders, great and sore, upon Egypt, upon Pharaoh, and upon all his house, before our eyes.
    כג וְאוֹתָנוּ, הוֹצִיא מִשָּׁם–לְמַעַן, הָבִיא אֹתָנוּ, לָתֶת לָנוּ אֶת-הָאָרֶץ, אֲשֶׁר נִשְׁבַּע לַאֲבֹתֵינוּ. 23 And He brought us out from thence, that He might bring us in, to give us the land which He swore unto our fathers.
    כד וַיְצַוֵּנוּ יְהוָה, לַעֲשׂוֹת אֶת-כָּל-הַחֻקִּים הָאֵלֶּה, לְיִרְאָה, אֶת-יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ–לְטוֹב לָנוּ כָּל-הַיָּמִים, לְחַיֹּתֵנוּ כְּהַיּוֹם הַזֶּה. 24 And the LORD commanded us to do all these statutes, to fear the LORD our God, for our good always, that He might preserve us alive, as it is at this day.
    כה וּצְדָקָה, תִּהְיֶה-לָּנוּ: כִּי-נִשְׁמֹר לַעֲשׂוֹת אֶת-כָּל-הַמִּצְוָה הַזֹּאת, לִפְנֵי יְהוָה אֱלֹהֵינוּ–כַּאֲשֶׁר צִוָּנוּ. {ס} 25 And it shall be righteousness unto us, if we observe to do all this commandment before the LORD our God, as He hath commanded us.’

    • Ceil

      I loved your piece. Thank you. I am a Jew and proud of it.
      God Bless You.

    • Bree,

      Covenant blessings Ceil, we love you in the Lord!

    • Bree,

      Beautifully done wolffb, I love it too. Blessings and Shalom

  • William

    “All tyranny needs to gain a foothold

    is for people of good conscience to

    remain silent”

    Thomas Jefferson

  • emerson

    obama is blatantly ignorant of history regarding our foreign policy in general and Israel in particular. he is an embarrassment. he is also an islamist and a marxist. he must not be allowed to go forward, bypassing the US Congress, and trying to use the UN to force a palestinian state. he is an anti-semite and not to be trusted. he and jesse jackson probably share their favorite “hymie town” jokes.

  • Hannah

    I am confident in the American people. There are more of us then there are Washington Politicians. We americans will always stand up as sheilds for Israel. We will always win and be blessed because Almighty God is on our side defending Israel and the Jewish people whom he chose to share with the world our faith in God. We will and should always cherish God’s chosen people because through them God’s 10 commandments were given to the human race. Without the commandments we would be destined to endure the loss of Gods love and profound words of Wisdom. We as humans all have a Jewish heart if we believe in God and cherish human life. Again, God is on our side and we shouldn’t fear these demonic, evil satanists who want to defeat God. They will in the end be sent back into the pit of hell where they will be able to destroy themselves. Love Israel, Love God
    God bless the Jewish People and all who protect their right to live.