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The Polls Speak: Who Won the Debate?

Written on Wednesday, October 26, 2011 by

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We now have three polls by PPP, NBC/WSJ and Reuters before the Oct. 11 debate and three right after it was over, from AP, CNN and Rasmussen. So now we know who won the debate and who lost.

As we noted at the time, the big winner was Mitt Romney. In the average of the three polls taken before the debate, he was in second place at 23 percent of the vote. After the debate, he was alone in first place at 28 percent.

Cain also gained, although not as much as Mitt. Before the debate, he was in first place at 25 percent. After it, he had gained to 27 percent, although he had fallen back to second place behind Romney.

Rick Perry continued his slide, dropping from 13 percent before the debate to 12 percent, after his outrageous performance.

Newt slipped a bit from 10 percent to 8 percent. Ron Paul continued his descent to zero, also dropping from 10 percent to 8 percent. Bachmann held steady at 5 percent.

Here’s a rundown of the candidates’ pre-debate numbers, followed by their post-debate numbers:

— Romney: 23; 28

— Cain: 25, 27

— Perry: 13, 12

— Paul: 10, 8

— Newt: 10, 8

— Bachmann: 5, 5

So the only candidates to move up were Cain and Romney. Voters seem to be gradually coming to the conclusion that these are the final two who will duke it out. There are still many more debates. Here’s what each candidate has to do:

Romney must continue to handle attacks with smooth aplomb, staying unruffled and smiling while offering substantive rebuttals. And he must score hard against Obama.

Cain needs to win the argument about his 9-9-9 plan with concrete data, statistics, and facts. No more “apples and oranges” generalities.

Perry must learn how to debate without coming across as an animal.

Paul should drop out of the race.

Newt has more creative ideas than all of the others put together, but he won’t spell them out in the debates. If he doesn’t do it soon, we’ll stop waiting.

Bachmann must get traction from the Congressional deficit debates and Obamacare and make them her issues.

The next debate is Nov. 9 on CNBC. Follow it live with me at DickMorris.com.

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  • http://www.americagonestupid.com nvrpc

    Soory people but I’ll take Cain and can the rest in a microsend and I’ll take his 9,9,9 over that JA’s 20% plan any days. Actually I’ll take the 8,2,0 plan. Click on my name and then the ( no more tax ) logo. That my freidns is the best tax plan one can imagine as long as the IRS and their tax codes are completely abolished within the first 24 hours of taking office, I’ll be happy.

    • http://HELP Believer

      I will take neither, they can not be trusted. Michele Bachman is the REAL DEAL.

    • http://www.reformdc.com nax777

      Agree, if these polls are correct at least 90% of republican voters are RINO’s. Perry or Romney would insure an Obama re-election.

    • Joyce

      The GOP knows this, so why are they trying to foist RINO Romney on us? That’s the last thing we need, another turncoat. We need Herman Cain to nullify the race card; he’s a true American who came up the hard way. Why must we only have candidates who were born into money? Why can’t we have someone who knows the real hardships of life? The playing field should be even since they all use donated money. Yet the GOP only backs their wealthy cronies. Wealth and common sense don’t equate.

    • Teri

      Help Michelle Bachmann get elected. She’s the only one that hasn’t wavered on any of the issues. I would educated myself on the Mormon faith and the Church of Latter Day Saints. You’ll be surprised how closely their agenda matches the islamist agenda. We really need to do more research and investigating into these candidates’backgrounds. People foolishly follow after hearing the words they want to hear as they did with Obama. Do your homework!

    • http://HELP Believer

      THANK YOU Teri! I believe you hit the nail on the head. I AGREE 100 PERCENT!

    • OneWomansVoice

      Ron Paul has not wavered on the issues. How about this on Bachmann wanting to switch to the Dem party in 09?
      http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-young/democrats-block-bachmans_b_192706.html

    • Maynard Merrell

      I don’t believe it, and neither should any true Constitutional Conservatives. What we need is our own party. A few years ago I became a member iof the Constitutional Party for Constitutional Conservatives. However, the subversive news media gave them little to no attention, and the organizers of debates wouldn’t allow them to debate with other party candidates. When you have two subversive major parties controling everything, then where can they go. Subversives can say that we can all go to Hell, but we can,t, because they have already overloaded the place.

    • http://HELP Believer

      This is an UNTRUE STATEMENT.

    • Daniel from TN

      Maynard Merrell. A third party is exactly what we do NOT need. Third parties only insure Democrats get elected. Third parties split Republican voters, not Democratic ones. I believe the correct course of action is currently occuring with the TEA Party. The TEA Party is slowly working to take control of the Republican Party from the inside. It will take a few more years but I believe they will succeed. Perhaps then the name will be changed from Republican Party to TEA Party.

    • Retha

      Teri,
      The Mormon faith is the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. Mormon is a nickname. We are not at all like the muslims. You should go to mormon.org to learn about the Mormons, you will be very surprised I bet.

    • Daniel from TN

      You’re overlooking one important detail. Some religions say one thing “officially” but say something different in actual practice. I do not know if this is the situation with LDS but it is something to keep in mind.

    • Pat Hazelwood

      You clearly haven’t done your homework on The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day saints.

    • old salt

      I for one will only vote for someone who does not tout religion of any sort (remember seperation of church and state). One other stipulation, in order to get my vote he or she must have served in the military as that should be required to become Commander in Chief. DR. Ron Paul Meets my requirements.

    • http://pepperhawkfarm.wordpress.com Pat

      Teri,
      Bloody hell, Teri, comparing the Mormons with the Islamists is ridiculous. What a show of religious bigotry. Islam is not a religion it is a way of life with Sharia law. There are huge differences in these religions. Also I don’t recall the last time a Mormon bombed a building or flew an airplane into a building.

    • http://pepperhawkfarm.wordpress.com Pat

      Believer,

      I used to think the same of Bachmann, but I have become disillusioned with her as the weeks have gone by. She has lied too many times during the debates about her fellow candidates. She is slippery as an eel when she wants to avoid answering a question that puts her on the mat. No Palin is Michelle.

      She also voted yes to the new version of the Patriot Act which has destroyed our 4th Amendment rights. For that alone I could not vote for her. If she cannot abide by the oath she took to the Constitution, then I would not expect her to do so as president either.

    • http://N/A Jim Kindle

      I think the polls might have a different out come of all candidates had and equal time to speak, so far it has been a Romney Perry debate and what we do not need is any more CFR backed Presidents as all are except 2, guess who the are?????

    • awakenow

      I know Ron Paul is definitely NOT one of the two.

      Newt Gingrich is, however.

    • jpark

      George Soros is the puppeteer behind obummer.
      The billionaires Koch brothers are the puppeteers behind Cain.
      http://news.yahoo.com/long-ties-koch-brothers-key-cains-camp

      Use your heads for something besides a hat rack, and back a candidate who isn’t in anybodys pocket. One who has a history of voting according to the constitution, and has never voted otherwise.

      9-9-9 could very easily become 15-15-15, or worse after Cain gets in office.

      Ron Paul is the only candidate who will look out for the peoples interest because he isn’t beholden to anybody.

    • Gene Vallorani

      The only Christian Conservative on the Republican ticket is Texas Governor Rick Perry. Anything Dick Morris says on FOX News is suspect. Morris wants Romney to win because all those Eastern Elites who run FOX have no qualms about abortion, gay marriage, and anything else their liberal culture embraces. FOX is trying to prove that it can get Romney nominated like the liberal New York Times succeeded for Obama in ’08. Michelle Bachmann is a hypocrite for voting for in state tuition for illegals in Minnesota in 2005 yet acts like Mr. Perry committed the crime of the century for an act of the solidly Republican Texas Legislature in 2001. Romney also is a hypocrite. Perry said it best during his interview on the O’Reilly Factor when asked about Romney’s past support for abortion, and gay marriage when he said, “a man at age 50 or 60 has already made up his mind about such things.” Perry’s correct! Cain, by the way, is seeking to be Romney’s VP because he won’t be able to afford to run his own national campaign. I want to make another point to all you “Establishment Republicans” and your public disdain for Hispanics.You better wake up. Texas Hispanics will soon be the majority in Texas and if the Country Club Republicans drive them into the waiting arms of the Democrat Party and Texas becomes a “Blue State” there will never again be a chance for another Republican President of the United States for at least a 100 years.Once Texas is lost the remaining Red States will not have enough electoral votes to put a Republican in office. Do you want to give up all the electoral votes from the second most populous state of the union?

    • Maynard Merrell

      Being a Christian Conservative is just fine, but being a Constitutional Conservative is quite another. A Constitutional Conservative would secure our Mexican boarder even if that ment post military out post along its length, and shooting down anyone who wont respond to “Halt!”. A Constitutional Coservative would see to the “peace and tranquility” promist to all citizens of America, not foreigners, particulaly those foreigners who lead our young people around by the nose and cause them to demonstrate and occupy and riot, all of which is against the legislated laws. Freedom is not absolute. If it were there would be anarchy and chaos, all kinds of criminal activity. Freedom demands limitaions to protect us all from mans unharnesed basic behavior. Constitutional conservatives choose limitations by the U.S. Constitution and local laws, but not limitations imposed by authoritarian governments which we will soon have if Obama and his people win..

  • The Enemy

    Romney is too liberal and has flip-flopped too much, as correctly pointed-out by Perry. If we want to beat king Obama and restore America, the obvious choice is Gingrich/Cain. Gingrich is smart enough to beat the king in the campaign and is conservative while also-conservative Cain is well-experienced in rescuing foundering businesses. And, of course, the U.S. economy is a grossly mis-managed business.

    • Frank Vodusek

      I heartly agree with the enemy on this. Mr. Cain is a proven business leader but I think his tax policies would hurt any major purchases such autos and homes. Here in MD. we have a 6% sales tax. Coupled with a 9% federal sales tax you can see how this would escalate major purchases beyond the capabilities of a lot of propesctive buyers.

    • Don39

      Do you have any idea how much embedded fed tax you are paying interest on now when you buy a new car? I did not think so.I would gladly pay it on the 9% that Cain proposes!

    • Daniel from TN

      You are very correct about the purchase of a car. On top of regular sales tax some states have a separate car sales tax.
      As far as whether or not Cain’s 9-9-9 Plan is workable, that just depends on who is crunching the numbers.

    • Cate

      lucky you, here in the peoples republic of Washington state the sales tax is between 8 or 9 percent. The difference is on how close to Seattle you are. The fed sales tax would be a combinded 17 or 18 on what we buy.
      I wish the voters here would quit voting the same people in, hoping for a better result :-(

    • sallybe

      Or how about Bachmann/Gingrich. She has the strong principled voting record, and Gingrich has the depth of knowledge and some great creative ideas. Cain is a good guy, but I sense his depth of knowledge is not yet enough to handle the critical situation we’re in. Bachmann knows the domestic and the foreign scene, and she has the strongest record of not backing down to RINOS!

    • dfrank

      Sally, one can only smile at trying to figure why you think Gingrich should be considered as less fit for the presidency than Bachmann. He’s not necessarily my favorite; but, if we’re to pick from just those two: I’d say you’ve got the cart before the horse.

    • sallybe

      Dfrank, we’ve all seen Gingrich pull some RINO moves once in awhile, but never Bachmann. I just happen to think Principles come first. But Gingrich is most knowledgeable, that’s for sure. No one outdoes Newt in experience and general knowledge of gov’t and foreign affairs. She is a close second, however. Look more closely.

    • http://HELP Believer

      You are a VERY SMART person.i happen to see what you SEE! The rest are SLICK! JINGLES, SLOGANS & JOKES won’t do it. This country is on the verge of COLLAPSE!. We had a slogan in 2008, it was “YES WE CAN’, and the JOKE was on us.We sure got HOPE & CHANGE!

    • rder

      Bachmann – you are jesting – she cannot win regardless of how Patriotic she is – she just ain’t got it. And I’d venture to say – other than Huntsman or even Bachmann , none of these contenders will stoop to second fiddle to any other one – especially to do nothing position like VP.

    • sallybe

      Ain’t got it??? Ain’t got WHAT????

    • Robin from Arcadia, IN

      A better match would be Cain/Gingrich.

    • Michael Peterson

      Reverse that to “Gingrich/Cain” and I might jump on board.

    • Tom Stewart

      Right-On Michael Peterson However As We Have Found Out With Pres Obamacare, It Does Not Take Experience, Yikeess, Only Telepromter Bull-Shit From George Sore-Ass. Anyone But Obamacare. God Bless America And The Tea Party Patriots.

    • OneWomansVoice

      The only problem I see here is that people continue to see the government as a business. Yes, there are business principles but it’s closer to a judicial entity than a corporation entity. To put in someone who doesn’t understand the way governance works is waiting for that person to play catch-up on how the government works.

    • Charlotte Juett

      The only person in the race that has even actually read the Constitution is Ron Paul. Why do you think the media and Democrats are so afraid of him? They know that their free ride will be over with a Paul presidency. And that is exactly why he has to acheive the GOP nomination. The only honest man in the race.

    • Don39

      Governance crap. They work for us , not the other way around. America needs to take back control!

    • Patriot1776

      The problem with our current governance is that it doesn’t work. The only thing that it does currently is fund crony capitalism and pork barrel projects along with making the self proclaimed aristocracy wealthy with a life-time 100% salary. All the more reason to look at people that don’t have experience in what this government has become and find leaders that understand what this government is supposed to be…One Nation, Under God, Indivisible, with Liberty and Justice for All.

    • http://x Washington22

      I agree, One Woman, and ALSO the candidate must have served in our armed forces. They cannot understand the military or be commander-in-chief, unless they have served. For me, it’s a pre-requisite.

    • LL

      Then Ron Paul is your man. USAF Flight Surgeon.

    • FlaJim

      Enemy, agree with you on Romney. He and Huntsman are as liberal as any Dem. Would like to see the polling data on these polls and find out just who was polled and where. It’s hard to believe there are that many stupid Republicans out there that want another McCain.

    • AliveStillKickin

      Romney, Perry and Huntsman are RINO SNAKES.
      Slick smiles and BS.
      Perry has trouble with eye contact and Romney has trouble keeping up with where he stands at the moment.
      Huntsman is a mini-obama.
      Take your pick from the rest, but I am going with Newt/Cain or Newt/Rubio…..and the next person who says Rubio isn’t eligible can kiss my hairy, white…***

    • Don39

      If Rubio’s father was born on American soil he is natural born, if not he is not legally eleigible to hold the office of president and therefore not the vice. Obama’s father was not American therefore he can not inherit natural borne status and is a usurper and EVERYTHING he has done is illegal. Every law he has signed is being illegally enforced, and congress and the judiciary are illegally enforcing his laws and in fact are accomplices in his illegal activities. The whole mess is unconstitutional and tyrantical. Welcome to the kingdom of Obamination. Is it not ironic that a black man and the Supreme court have decreed the return of slavery to America. By their failure to uphold the Constitution they have deemed it null and void!

    • Don39

      PS: Is there really any hope under any candidate that lacks the guts to challenge the constitutionality of the current illegal government?

    • Johnnygard

      Don, I usually agree with you, but do you have a different version of the Constitution? The PRESIDENT must be born in the U.S.A. Doesn’t matter WHERE your parents were born.

    • Johnnygard

      I make a statement that can easily be looked up and I get a thumbs down without a rebuttal saying why they think I’m wrong. Gutless!!

    • not a fanatic

      Johnnygard, look up the meaning of ‘natural born citizen’ and you will understand the difference.

    • Johnnygard

      not a fanatic, The only definition that counts in this case is what the Constitution says. If you guys were correct, don’t you think Hillary, McCain, Donald Trump, Rush and Glenn Beck would have raised hell about Obama’s dad not being a citizen? Maybe you folks should tell them what only you know.

    • johnk

      His father was not a US citizen and as such puts Obama as a dual citizen. One cannot be a dual citizen and be president.
      Case closed

    • http://HELP Believer

      I BELIEVE this country has a BROAD SPECTRUM of problems, and we need a PRESIDENT who can handle more then just BUSINESS & the ECONOMY!

    • http://x Washington22

      Agreed, Believer. That’s why some of our canidates are NOT suitable. They may be great people, but they NEED experience. They can’t simply be an expert in ONE field. And being a Governor with executive experience is the best possible senario. We cant’t turn our nation over to someone who wants to “learn on the job”………Our problems are too grave. Haven’t we learned anything? That leaves Romney and Perry. Romney has a track record of changing his mind over and over again. Gov Perry has a few wrinkles, but all in all, he’s a much better choice. He’s presided over a huge economy for ten years and doesn’t believe in stupid “green issues”. He’d drill baby, drill, get rid of the EPA, unions, bail outs and grow the economy. He had a few problems with gardisil, but it’s been asked and answered. I’ve researched his immigration policy and I’m convinced he’s strong on illegal immigration, with Obama out of his way, he’s shut the borders down. He’s looking like the one who could handle the mess we’re in and he wouldn’t take ANY bull from foreign nations………..

    • http://x Washington22

      Believer, I just spent 10 minutes writing a thoughtful response to you and I am being moderated. I gave several reasons for us to consider our govermor/candidates because of their huge experience…………Hope they finally print it in it’s entirety……..

    • Berdenia

      I SOOOOO AGREE!!!!

    • http://pepperhawkfarm.wordpress.com Pat

      The Enemy,
      Absolutely agree. A dynamite ticket.

    • Maynard Merrell

      To believer: What’s NOT TRUE? Explain yourself. To Daniel: In the past that has been the case. Third parties have either pulled voters away from the democrates or the republicans, not just the republicans. However,if the TEA PARTY were to succeed in capturing the Republican Party, which I would like to see happen, then the republicans that want to “preserve (meaning to conserve)” the republican party would continue to carry on with that name, “Republican Party”, and the “Tea Party” would have to continue on with the name “Tea Party”, and we would still be functioning under a three party system. It boils down to which party Constitutional Conservatives want to be asspciated with. It still boils down to which party has the best candidates in the eyes of the voter. Back in 1962 when I began writing Letters to the Editors, warning the people what laid ahead if we continued to listen to and vote for subversive liberals and socialists, that what we have today is what I said we would get. I signed my first several letter Don’t Tread On Me. I was way ahead of the tea party. I was my own tea party and have yet to meet one of those today. You might be interested to know that I also educated several young men about the communist conspiricy in America and else where in the world, and then worked with the FBI to infiltrate them into communist fronts. Unfortunately I was unable to write about that. How many people do you know that have done this for American freedom? I retired from the army (23 yrs), the police dept. (18 yrs), retired as an investigator for the Ohio BMV (15 yrs), but I will not retire from fighting communism, even though many people believe that communism is dead in Russia. Someday, you will all wake up. Because of my activities I’m on the liquidation list (and you may be,too), I’m not afraid to use my true name, Mayanrd Merrell.

  • Frank

    Please don’t tell me Paul should drop out of the race & that Romney should get the nomination. That makes you another one of the brainwashing MSM types. Let me tell you, we Tea Party people will probably vote 3rd Party if Romney gets the nomination… even if it means Obama wins again! I’d rather have the Democrats get all the blame for the upcoming financial meltdown, than a RINO GOPer.

    • Frank Vodusek

      Can’t agree with that! Obama cannot continue!

    • rder

      While everyone thinks Obama’s fate is sealed next year – it’s not. Next week in Ohio the country’s fate will be sealed and Obama and the unions will win big. That vote will determine the future of the United States of America, whether it will remain a constitutional republic or become a European style Socialist Democracy. And right now – it looks like the Socialist Democracy will win.

    • Vance

      Frank, what’s the difference between Romney and Obama? The real difference not what Romney says is the difference.

    • mickey

      The GOP should think carefully because a 3rd party or stay at home is not out of the question if Paul is not on the ticket.

      I wouldn’t vote for Romney (pretty face and smiling while lying) nor Perry with his illegal migration stance.

      Apparently obama doesn’t think much of the majority and the GOP better take note, this part of the majority will throw the election to obama if we aren’t going to get any more than Bilderberg candidates.

    • EagarBeez

      just remember a vote for 3rd party, will end up going to Obummer! Do not be this way act like an adult, not a child. I am a conservative, a repulican through and through. Also consider myself a tea party person. I plan on voting for whom ever the party selects. I may not like them, but, I do not want my vote going to the a– that is in OUR white house now.

    • Patriotic nut

      Eager, you are correct, however I would not say it out loud. Let the establishment Republicans believe that if they push a rhino on us they will lose.

    • rder

      If, and they are – along with Fox – push the RINO Romney – they will lose. Actually the Conservatives and Tea Party has already lost. They are losing Ohio big time next week to Obama and the unions. Just watch as SB 5 gets repealed by the voting citizens.

    • armyof69

      REPUBLICANS, placed us where we are now.
      So let’s not pontificate. Time for you to look at what is good for America for a change , not for the stupid parties, or selfish needs.
      A 3rd Party threat IS what we may need at the last minute.

    • mickey

      So what difference does it make if we have obama or another obama under GOP? I would rather vote my conscience than just vote party. Bush, et al, were Bilderbergs and served as a backdrop for obama. Senators and Congressmen are another issue.

    • OneWomansVoice

      I talk democracy to these men and women. I tell them that they have the vote, and that theirs is the kingdom and the power and the glory. I say to them ”You are supreme: exercise your power’.’ They say, ”That’s right: tell us what to do';’ and I tell them. I say ”Exercise our vote intelligently by voting for me’.’ And they do. That’s democracy; and a splendid thing it is too for putting the right men in the right place.” George Bernard Shaw
      Is this what we have come to? Voting for someone we don’t want instead of our conscience and to appease the party? No. Vote for the person you believe will bring this country back from the brink. For me, that is Ron Paul. Period.

    • rr

      Ron Paul is the only candidate that speaks truth.I will write-in Dr. Paul regardless of GOP nominee rather than have another bought for politician in any party.They win again!!!
      for all you who vote for their candidate.

    • JUDY

      YOU ARE SO RIGHT EDGARBZZ. A THIRD PARTY WOULD PUT OBAMA BACK IN THE WHITEHOUSE!!! THAT SHOULD BE THE #1 THING THE REPUBLICANS AND TEA PARTYS UNITE FOR. AS LONG AS OBAMA IS GONE WE THE PEOPLE CAN GET THIS COUTRY BACK ON TRACK.

    • awakenow

      All of them except, Ron Paul, will do the bidding of the globalists intent on destroying what is left of our Republic.

      I am also a member of the Tea Party and as a member, I would like to remind people about the purpose of the Tea Party … that we are TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY, to stop the insane spending, downsize the federal government and START FOLLOWING THE CONSTITUTION!

    • Stan

      I will vote for Ron Paul,and if he doesn’t get the nomination,I will write him in.I vote for the best man for the job,not blindly for a party.I am a conservative,and will not compromise my morals for anyone the news media has selected for me.

    • Patriot1776

      Will you feel good about yourself watching the demolition of the Constitution, the stripping of all of your freedoms for the public good? If you vote your consience and vote for a third party or write in candidate you are allowing obama to continue his decimation of this country and make no mistake, he will take a victory in 2012 and an authorization to escalate his attacks on religion, gun rights and probably Tea Party members. If we are forced to accept Romney as the choice we can maybe have a Constitutionally conservative congress and still make progress. If we give this country to obama again, he will eliminate congress all together as he instals himself formally as dictator.

    • http://waitingforindependence Independentwaitingforindepence

      Even if it means ovimit gets reelected!!! You and others like you are an ass. You want your candiate even if ovimit gets reelected, you are a true dumb ass.

    • mickey

      What difference does it make if we only have a choice between obama dem and obama repub? At least the independent vote will record our discontent with the way things are, be it repub or dem.

      If policies are to remain the same, party aside, the votes are a sham.

    • Nonne

      Calm down, please — Indepns– We all feel strongly about our candidate choices and we all feel strongly that Obummer is the WORST prez in U.S. history.

      Next time, try to refute the writers’ argument with good facts about your candidate — and reign in your rampant name-calling. Think of it this way — You’re making Ron Paul look bad!

    • Lee

      I agree with Frank. No more RINOs so the libs can shift the blame to them for the failed policies. I am amazed that voters want to base their selection on the best debater. How about looking at their record. We have a great debater in the white house now. How is that working for you. Don’t be fooled by the Cain BS. Give the government another tax source (sales tax) and they will continue their tax and spend policies.

    • warren reynolds

      hat’s funny, obama could not beat a highs chool student in a debate, what? he beat mccain? like i said, obama couldn’t beat a high school student from dc in a debate. LMAO

    • Bushmaster_66-68

      @ nFrank.

      Your comment, “…even if it means Obama wins again! I’d rather…” indicates just how much of a fool you, and those who think like you, really are.

      This country CANNOT survive another 4 years of obummer and his pack of wild dogs.

      It is CRITICAL that EVERYONE, who does not want a 2nd term for obummer, VOTE for WHOEVER IS selected as the GOP candidate for President.

      A VOTE FOR a 3rd party candidate, OR EVEN a failure to vote for the GOP candidate IS

    • Bushmaster_66-68

      OOPS!!!!! Sorry to all. I somehow tripped the enter key?

    • Bushmaster_66-68

      @ nFrank.

      Your comment, “…even if it means Obama wins again! I’d rather…” indicates just how much of a fool you, and those who think like you, really are.

      This country CANNOT survive another 4 years of obummer and his pack of wild hyenas [sp?].

      It is CRITICAL that EVERYONE, who does not want a 2nd term for obummer, VOTE for WHOEVER IS selected as the GOP candidate for President.

      A VOTE FOR a 3rd party candidate, OR EVEN a failure to vote for the GOP candidate IS the SAME as a vote FOR obummer.

    • 820 RED HORSE

      So true Bushmaster,I preached this to some folks the other day and they still did”nt get it,that is until a buddy of mine broke out his laptop and pulled up what happened when Ross Perot ran For POTUS as an Independent, each of them read the article and the breakdown of the independent votes that negated GOP votes,they finally gotta grasp on what the 3rd party votes did on that election,more people need to pull up election archives to actually see the damage done. GOD BLESS AMERICA!!

    • Joe H

      You are right! Although everyone would like to vote their conscience and vote for the person they believe best, the main issue here is to replace Obama. The nation will not survive another 4 years of Obama. Not enough people will vote for an Independent, so such a vote will be wasted and Obama will win again. What we must do is to get the best man (or woman) nominated by the Republican party, then go with it.

    • Don39

      Fools are born everyday and apparently you found at least 15 that agree with you!

    • Wren

      I will refuse to vote for Romney, Perry or Cain. If the Plutocrats manage to win the Primary election I will vote third party also. Cain has deep ties to the Koch brothers, the Republican version of George Soros. His 9-9-9 plan was devised by a businessman who served on Americans for Prosperity advisory board. Cain lacks economic understanding and does not even understand 9-9-9 himself. The reason for his obvious discomfort when asked for details of the plan.
      Ron Paul is the only candidate that does not have ties to the big money robbers in control of Washington DC. Ron Paul understands economics like none of the other candidates do.

    • http://x Washington22

      Wren and all of the above Ron Paul supporters…..Mr Paul only represents a small fraction of you. The rest of us wouldn’t consider him for a vatiety of reasons,stemming from legalizing heroine to his foreign nations attitude. He is like several of the others in that he is ONLY partially right on the issues. Too many of his other ideas really are extreme. Our candidate must be more balanced. None of the candidates has it all. But some of them are MORE right than WRONG. Our candidate has to appeal ot ALL of us MOST of the time. Even Ronald Reagan, our standard bearer, wasn’t perfect. He didn’t get it ALL right, but he got MOST of it right. Think like this and we’ll get our man……………

  • pat

    well i see that we have been brainwashed by these sites too..cain is a valid canidate but romney has been pushed down our throats for so long that people are actually believing he’s the real deal when actually he’s one of the puppets..Paul has beaten all of the canidates on a consistant basis..but he keeps getting shoved too near last..romney will provide the last killing blow too this country..Perry,,cain,,paul are the only real actual conservitive choices we have if we are going too save this country…
    pat

    • mickey

      Perry is just another Bilderberg. Having a GOP label doesn’t mean they are on our side.

    • am2sweet

      The Bilderbergs aren’t on anyones side but their own. They want to rule the world. Perry was chosen by them as they thought he would do well. But in return there are certain things they will want from him to make sure their cause is furthered. Gingrich is in the Bilderberg organization but they didn’t back him since he doesn’t have the charisma they were looking for. That is what got Obama elected. That chrisma and they figured Perry had that and a good chance of winning. The last poll I saw yesterday on TV had Cain in first place and Romney in second. I think some people are afriad of having another black president again after seeing what Obama has done.

    • Don39

      Paul is not a conservative and has never claimed to be one! He is an isolationist Libertarian and no propaganda you Paul nuts spout can change that!

    • Don39

      I will not risk my heirs or other Americans to contend with an Iran with nuclear bombs and nuclear terrorism.

  • http://AUTORECYCLINGMALLNET TOM

    CAIN GINGRICH OR CAIN RUBIO.NEWT LOST ME WITH HIS VAN SUSTERN INTERVIEW

    • awakenow

      Rubio is not eligible to be the President.

      He is not a natural born citizen because his parents were not born here in this country. They were born in Cuba and immigrated to Miami.

      Also, Mario Rubio, Marco’s father, did not apply for a naturalization permit until FOUR YEARS after Mario was born in Miami, meaning that Marco Rubio was born with dual allegiance … to the US and to Cuba.

      The actual Rubio Sr. naturalization permit is online for anyone to see.
      http://www.scribd.com/doc/56489970/Naturalization-Petition-Filed-in-Sep-1975-for-Mario-Rubio-the-father-of-Senator-Marco-Rubio-born-May-1971.

      Also, by doing a search using the following text and clicking on the link for Scribd dot com:

      “Naturalization Petition Filed in Sep 1975 for Mario Rubio”

    • OneWomansVoice

      That didn’t seem to stop Obama from making it to the WH.

    • awakenow

      Yep, unfortunately and this should show people how corrupt the leadership is in both parties.

      The GOP, like the Dems, have zero interest in adhering to the Constitution on this, as they are working to promote Rubio to the top job.

    • mickey

      obama set precedence.

    • Don39

      Thank you, awakenow. You are absolutely correct. Rubio is NOT eligible for the same reason that Obnama is not eligible . He is a usurper and everything done under his name is illegal and will be faced fore many years to come if he is not successful in totally overthrowing the Constitutional Republ.ic, which pretty much already has with the subserviance of Congress and the Supreme Court.

    • LL

      Awake, while I don’t personally support Rubio, you are misleading people. There is a FIVE YEAR WAITING PERIOD to become a naturalized citizen. Sheesh! The fours years you scream about means Daddy applied before little Marco was even conceived.

  • awakenow

    Do not trust anything Dick Morris says. For one thing, before he was a suck to the GOP establishment, he was suck up to the Democratic establishment.

    Never, ever, forget that Morris was a Clinton promoter.

    Dick Morris is a weasel, a manipulator, and he is just plain wrong far more than he is right.

    His purpose is to tell you what to think.

  • pat

    too all vets and true americans,,we will be having a million man march on washington on 11-11-11 too call for the impeachment and arrests of all the criminals in dc..If u can please join us..
    retired at1 donnelly

    • OneWomansVoice

      Be careful. Some have said that Obama will stop the elections next year due to the “public” problems. I think OWS is just the beginning.

    • 820 RED HORSE

      OWV, I’ve heard that obummer is also watchin sites like this one and OATHKEEPERS & TEA PARTY sites as well. What repurcussions that will have on folks like us,if it indeed is true?GOD BLESS AMERICA!

    • OneWomansVoice

      Yes, Red Horse, it’s a bit scary to know that your rights to free speech and your opinion may be “reviewed” to ensure you’re okay. Sad that the Patriot Act has caused such destruction of liberty to Americans. But as you note we must stand for our founding principles that made this country great even if it is only our voices coming together saying “Enough, we want our country back.”

    • Don39

      Pat how do you impeach a president that is not president and is so surrounded by palace guard that you can not get to him to make a citizens arrest? See you in DC 11-11-11 if able, if not I’ll be there in spirit.

  • pat

    rubio cannot be vice-president,,I really like the man,,but the gop will be doing the same thing the demorats did with obummer..He is not a natural born citizen
    pat

    • mickey

      If the dems have their way, Rubio may be eligible. It is my understanding all resources referring to court cases of “natural born” are being scrubbed from the internet.

    • Patriot41

      Mickey, scrubbing it from the internet does not change the Constitution. That is something that has to be voted on by Congress and then sent to the states for approval.

    • mickey

      ummhmmm tell that to the dems. obama is sitting in the WH I believe. This goes far back to Kissinger (that I am aware of) and the dems have come up with 8 bills to change this since 2000.

      The internet is important as that is where a lot of us get our research.

    • OneWomansVoice

      This would be great if they were actually following the Constitution. It gets worse and worse by the day as our liberty and the way our country should be run is trampled upon by our President and others in government.

    • Don39

      Article II of the Constitution is not subject to change by the Congress or by the courts, only by a Constitutional Amendment. They can hide all the precidences they want, it does not change the Constitution and Constitutional Law.

    • Don39

      PS; thewy can not go the route of attempting to change the Constitution because it would be tantamount to proof of the illegality of the current OBAMINATION!

    • Johnnygard

      The fourteenth Amendment says: 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States…
      So born here makes you a “natural born citizen” unless it was somehow an unnatural birth. The term “natural born” is just to distinguish them from “naturalized” citixens, who aren’t eligible to be President. Rubio IS eligible, and unfortunately, so is Obumer IF – big IF – he was born un Hawaii. Everyone on this site thinks THEIR candidate is the best and smartest. Do you ever wonder why your smart candidate hasn’t mentioned Obamer isn’t eligible because his father wasn’t a citizen?
      And Donald Trump could have saved a bunch of time instead of looking into the birth cert.
      I guess you are just that much smarter than you favorite candidate.

  • Karen

    “Ron Paul should drop out of the race.”?????? Corporate Media Propaganda as usual.

    • Patriot41

      Karen, unfortunately it is not just the corporate media doing a job on Paul. If you look at it closely, it is the two party system that has been waging war on Ron Paul for years. They have to discredit him any way then can, because he represents the truth about what has been going on in govt., and the Federal Reserve.

    • Don39

      The fed Reserve has nothing to do with it, it is his libitartian isolationist ideas, that will never fly. Paul is a third party candidate , he is and always has been a libertarian!

    • Matthew Holt

      Shut up you ignoramous

    • Wren

      Exactly Right! Patriot41. Cain is a puppet with strings attached to the Plutocrats. Romney and Perry are both Bushmen. Research their compliance with, in Perry’s case the NAU and NAFTA Corridor and in Romney’s case the Falcone Funds Scandal.

    • Karen

      Yes, Patriot41, I realized that a couple of years ago when I really started researching things for myself and trying to find the truth behind all the deception and corruption that is rampant. Though no one is perfect, but Ron Paul certainly is the only one in my search that has proven his integrity and will stand for what is right and not just what is popular or what people want to hear. Ron Paul is a true leader.

  • wayne

    After the next debate, anyone who can’t muster at least 10% in the polls should drop out and endorse Herman Cain.

  • Jerry F.

    Cain/Gingrich is the way to go,you need Cain to be on top so gingrich can be held in balance,and he would have more knowledge with how to work with the senate.

    • rder

      Don’t be stupid – Gingrich will not play second fiddle in a do nothing no responsibility job and Cain is a loser. All he has is a tax plan that he cannot confidently explain, that he had handed to him by someone else and that has no chance in Congress. So that leaves his experience as an elected official – some, any? He will flounder around on the world stage and perhaps the only good thing will be that he won’t go apologizing to everyone and bowing to foreign kings. He has no CLEAR position on immigration – like enforcing the laws on the books – or deporting criminals from our prisons which would save tons of taxpayer money.

      I’ll be voting for Newt in the Primary.

  • pat

    newt is still the brightest and will be the most efective in debating obama. i hope he gains traction and support.

  • Hjordis

    So what happened to Santorum? He wasn’t even mentioned.

  • mickey

    Cain may be good but he will just be another “learn on the job”. He doesn’t even have a “present” background observing how government works. His biggest asset is his ability to turn a company around and the government is another animal altogether.

    • Don39

      Nonesense , goverment is the servant of the people, we are a capatalist society and need a true capitalist to serve us! Do not fall into the socialist trap!

    • awakenow

      Correction, our nation has devolved into a “Crony Capitalistic” society.

      Crony Capitalism benefits those with the money and power as it forms an unholy alliance with government.

      Capitalism is wonderful when it works as it should, free from government and crony capitalists working together to affect an outcome which benefits both but, ultimately, NOT the middle class taxpayers.

  • pat

    I am in aggrement with mickey,,,Ron Paul needs too be on the ticket,,He has some very different ideas but is a true american..and will always stick too his guns,,he does not give in too political presure or waver from his ideals..some ideals are alittle messed up but they will not harm our country and hes great ideas will start bringing this country back too where is really belongs
    pat

    • EagarBeez

      Any person saying they are not bothered by Iran having nuclear weapons is not the one for me. That’s scary

    • mickey

      Why is that any more scary than Sharia law here?

      We already have many countries that do have nuclear. Israel has plenty and no one has used it except the US.

    • Don39

      Fool , Israel is not our enemy and is not a terrorist support nation.

    • OneWomansVoice

      Don, Certainly you are welcome to your opinion. But how about some respect for the opinions of others? You don’t see them calling you a fool. Let’s discuss and debate our points but let’s move past childish name-calling. We are all passionate about our country and if nothing else, we can all be united in that.

    • Matthew Holt

      Ignoramous! Israel not our enemy? Google “USS Liberty” you dope.

    • Patriot41

      Eagar, you might as well start attacking all of the other countries that have nuclear weapons then, like N. Korea, Pakistan, Russia, China, France, Germany, England and even Israel. We do not have the authority to stop any country from developing nuclear power period. We are a sovereign nation and as such, do not have the right to determine who can and cannot have nuclear power. You need to accept that fact!

    • awakenow

      So, why would the CIA tell Ron Paul that Iran is nowhere close to getting nukes?

      Did the CIA lie to him, or is Ron Paul lying to us?

      And, even if Iran did get nukes, what are they going to do? Attack US which would ensure that Tehran gets turned into dust??

      What are they going to do?? Nuke Israel, which also means Tehran will get turned into dust??

      What do you want us to do? Violate the Constitution yet again, by starting another undeclared and unConstitutional war against Iran??

      And, how are we gonna pay for that? By printing more phony baloney, Monopoly Money, by the Fed or by borrowing from China??

      Our debt crisis is very, very real, and far more of a threat than any nuclear strike from Iran, a country that can’t even make its own gasoline.

    • Don39

      I love the total irrationality of you Paul people. That is part of why I know he is not right for America. You people scare the hell out of me ! Veteran Patriot.

    • Johnnygard

      awake, It’s rather simple. They will give nukes to terrorists who will hit us with them. They don’t need big missiles, just bring it offshore of L.A., S.F., or N.Y. and either use a small missile or set it off near port.

    • awakenow

      Johnnygard, you just made Ron Paul’s case for bringing home our troops and using them to defend our own borders and shores.

      As it stands now, our borders are wide open while our troops are busy protecting the borders of Afghanistan and Pakistan.

      As it stands now, any day of the week a nuke could be smuggled across the Mexican or Canadian border or lobbed at us from offshore.

    • Johnnygard

      Awake, They don’t need to bring the bomb across the border. Just a good size boat offshore with a short range missle or bring it to port and detonate it. That is why we need to help Israel prevent Iran from building them.

    • OneWomansVoice

      Okay so Iran shouldn’t get any nukes. How do you propose we stop that if they really wanted them? They’re probably already working with Russia. You have to get real. Paul is not saying he supports them having nukes, he just understands the futility of policing the world. Others have said it succinctly–Iran would be obliterated by us and Israel. Israel has the most to lose so let them worry about Iran.

    • Don39

      see above comment

    • Johnnygard

      We might be able to stop them by helping Israel with intelligence (theres is probably already better than ours) and maybe drones so they can do the dirty work.

  • pat

    i just visited another voting site where they say that romney is losing 70% too 30% in being conservative enough for the gop..how does he get ontop of the charts here????wake up people,,the media is trying too guide us too there choice for candidate not ours,,as americans,,we need too see past these games and do right by our country
    pat

    • rder

      I’m telling you – there IS a conspiracy and FOX is either in on it or is the author of it – they are pushing Romney as THE candidate – and he is their candidate because he will split the vote, driving away the conservatives and the Tea Party to a third party candidate. “I” believe that is the plan.

    • dfrank

      rder, do you even watch Fox? I see them talking about Cain more than any two or three of the other candidates combined. And, it is usually positive except that they can not seem to think of a way to explain 9-9-9 in a convincing manner. But then, neither can Cain.

    • armyvet

      If Romney gets elected, don’t expect a repeal of the economically unsound fiasco of Obamacare! Remember, Romneycare was what it was patterned after! Our country will continue it’s downward spiral into oblivion because of it’s true cost. The true cost has been carefully hidden for fear of it’s repeal.

    • Don39

      I ‘believe’ you are a fool that couldn’t care less about the truth.

    • Patriot41

      Pat, what you have to realize is that more then conservatives are participating in these polls. None of them are scientific in their polling process and all have different levels of error. Dick Morris looks at the opinion polling through different eyes, in that he looks at the whole of the U.S. voters. Independents now make up a slight majority of voters and are looking for anyone they think can beat Obama. They do not normally favor true conservatives and are more inclined to vote for middle of the road candidates. This is why they are trending toward Romney.

    • Don39

      I have come to realize that half of the people who claim to be conservatives are anything but. Todays conservatives are yesterdays moderates, they do not know what they beleive from one election to the next. Just as yesterdays democrats are now moderates and yesterdays Marxist communist are todays progressive democrats. You can not judge a book by its title.

    • Lee

      I agree with Pat. Someone wants us to select Romney. That means a real conservative does not want him. Watch the left. If they start tearing a candidate down that candidate is probably a good choice for a conservative. They destroyed Palin and before that Newt. They have already started on Rubio so he must have something that scares them. Also the left is tearing at Perry so he must be a pretty good conservative. The hoopla about his immigration policy is just baloney. Several states allow illegals to go to college at in-state rates. Also several more have it on the agenda for a vote. Romneycare gave illegals free medical care. People need to be very careful about how they select a candidate. Looking at the record the voters do not have a sterling record at electing their representatives.

    • awakenow

      The Left has already started on Rubio??

      I am NOT on Left. I am a former (proud to say) member of the establishment voting GOP who has finally realized that the end game is about keeping the STATUS QUO, put in place to benefit the elites who tell both parties what to do and how to do it.

      Rubio IS the next INELIGIBLE one they want in the White House and to heck with that old rag called the United States Constitution!!

      He is NOT, I repeat NOT, a “natural born” citizen as required by the Constitution.

      Rubio was born with dual allegiance to Cuba and the US, because both his parents were NOT NATURAL BORN citizens … meaning born here in our own country.

      Wake up, people, and see the BS the GOP is shoveling our way!

    • Johnnygard

      awake, See my post way up above. There is nothing in the constitution that says your parents had to be born in the U.S.A.
      14th Ammendment uses “natural born” to differentiate from “naturalized”. The President himself (and therefore also the VP) is the only one required to be born on our soil.

    • awakenow

      Johnnygard, Rubio is most certainly NOT qualified to be the President because at birth he had DUAL CITIZENSHIP.

      Both of his parents were Cuban citizens when he was born in 1971. Mario Rubio only applied for his Naturalization Permit FOUR YEARS after Rubio was born in Miami, in 1975.

      Also, the Founders clearly intended that any President NOT have any allegiance to any foreign country.

      It is a fact that Marco Rubio was born with dual citizenship, Cuban and American.

      Here is the actual Naturalization Permit that Rubio Sr. (Mario) applied for in September, 1975, again, four years after Marco Rubio was born in 1971.

      http://www.scribd.com/doc/56489970/Naturalization-Petition-Filed-in-Sep-1975-for-Mario-Rubio-the-father-of-Senator-Marco-Rubio-born-May-1971.

    • not a fanatic

      johnnygard, ‘naturalized’ does not mean ‘natural born’. Someone moves here from Spain and gets his citizenship, that means he’s a ‘naturalized’ citizen. According to you, that would make the ex-Spaniard eligible for the presidency. Please read the arguments for the 14th amendment so you will have a clearer understanding of its meaning.

    • Johnnygard

      not a fanatic, Wasn’t it clear enough? Natural born is different from naturalized. Rubio is a natural born citizen of this country (born in the U.S.A.). Later his parents were naturalized. There is nothing in the constitution about where a presidents parents were born. If you guys are so sure of yourselves, try to explain it to the eight Republican candidates, Donald Trump, Rush Limbaugh, Glenn Beck, the Republican party, the Democrat party (so they can keep Rubio out) and even Hillary in case she wants to replace Obummer.

  • Southern Son

    People , stop looking for the perfect candidate, there is not one anywhere, all have their flaws, just remember Ovomit is still in the White House he needs to be gone ASAP. November 2012 is the target date, Get behind your choice, if he/she is not the Republican choice, support the one that is. Dont lose sight of what is at stake here. The future of OUR COUNTRY is in your hands. Vote Republican in your Senate and House races if you have one but by all means vote that imposter OUT OF OFFICE in November.

    • OneWomansVoice

      We don’t just want Obama out, we want someone better in!!!

    • Don39

      So you can vote for anybody! even the local dogcatcher can get the mut out!

    • dfrank

      Thanks for your sane post, Son. It is the best post I’ve seen on this thread. We really do need to quit trying to out-smart everybody and just go on and vote for whomever we prefer in the primaries and support the Republican candidate in November 2012.

    • 820 RED HORSE

      Well put Southern Son, division over who gets the GOP nod,will only insure we have 4 more years for obummers administration to finish destroying our nation! And OWV anyone is better than we we got!

    • not a fanatic

      If you don’t mind me tweeking your post a bit, son:
      Vote for the most fiscally conservative, Constitution-adhering, liberty-loving Republican in your Senate and House races if you have one but by all means vote that imposter OUT OF OFFICE in November.

  • BDTR

    Great so now it’s lookin like we get the flip flopper or the ex Fed Reserve guy. Lucky us!

  • LibRep

    I have to disagree with the author about Ron Paul. Yes, I am a Paulbot, because I, too, am tired of the flip flopping and liberals posing as conservatives to get elected to expand the role of government. If we’re going for principle and consistency over looks, Ron Paul is it. America has no more time left for status quo.

  • judy

    he only won with the elite GOP and liberals and media. he did not win with the majority of the people because when it comes to debating Newt wins hands down. the man knows his stuff with no teleprompter or notes.

    • OneWomansVoice

      Agree Newt is a good debater. I’ve often laughed at his retorts and media hand-slapping. But we’re not voting for best debater, or who has the nicest hair, or who looks most presidential, etc. We’re voting for the person we believe will put this country back on the right path. If you think that’s Newt, fine. But vote on what he has done, and what you know he will do. Sorry but to me his lack of commitment in marriage to me is an indicator of his character as well as anything else.

  • arnold

    these polls mean very little at this time, I like Newt,Paul,and Cain, but if they do not spark up their campaign they are going to lose to Romney, and heaven forbid if that happens. Perry is a no go, Paul steps on his own foot, Cain had better shake a leg and reduce his 999 to 993, Newt has to start talking and let the people know his plans, he is the smartest one there, wake up Newt.

  • tweety

    Romney is definitely the sauvest looking and the most glib (a la Obama) of the lot. Cain and Bachmann are sincere. Perry is definitely not for prime time. But what does this all matter? As sleek as Obama was on the campaign, he proved worthless — even less — in reality. So as TV oriented as the public is nowadays, we’ve been stung by this stuff before and many people will not be as swayed as the candidates would like us to believe.

    • mickey

      Yeah, pretty much a pretty boy candidate. I remember how appalled I was to see so many males (CA years ago) have their hair coiffered and manicured, finger nail polish on their hands. Now they all look like girly men.

    • Lee

      I am disappointed in the American voter when I see someone use words like not ready for “prime time”. The man has a great record and has been governor of Texas for 10 years. His record for producing jobs is outstanding. The economy in Texas is one of the best while being burdened by 1500 miles of unprotected border. Are we trying to elect the best debater. Debating is a skill. We have a fabulous debater in the white house now. How is that working out. Really want to elect another.

    • Tom Stewart

      Right-On Lee Polls Mean Nothing, Pick A Winner And Vote GOP Nov 2012.

  • tweety

    I meant SUAVEST looking…

  • John C. Stewart

    Anyone who keeps sticking there finger into the wind is not Presidential material. The ones who use that finger to point to the Constitution, and its meaning to the spine of this Nation, are the ones who show the most value.

    • Don39

      Show me the one that has the guts to call out the Obama fraud and the complicity of the congress and the Supreme Court as well as the FBI, CIA, and Injustice Department.

  • tod

    You People are Insane to pick Cain .Why would you pick a X-CEO of the Federal Reserve as President??? Might as well pick George Soros as Vice President !!!!For a True Patriot,Proven Honest,Intelligent,God fearing,President Dr. Ron Paul 2012 !!!

    • Don39

      You eveidently subscribe to the notion that if you tell a lie often enough people will ignore the truth. You repeted misrepresent Cains relationship to the Fed. Reserve and ignor the failings of Paul the LIBERTARIAN!

    • Johnnygard

      Lots of Paul supporters around here. At least 5 gave you a thumbs down, yet not one of them bothered to try to rebut what you said.

    • awakenow

      What misrepresentation of Cain and the Fed are you talking about???

      Cain was the Board Chairman of the Kansas City Federal Reserve and that is a very high position within the Fed, much the same as the CEO of any private entity … which the Federal Reserve is.

      As for Ron Paul’s libertarian failings, please name them? Ron Paul believes and stands for our Constitution, the most wise and divinely inspired words written by our Founders.

      Yeah, I guess people who don’t give a crap about the Constitution, and the freedoms it represents, would say that Ron Paul’s Libertarian beliefs are a failure.

    • LL

      Why bother, LOL?

  • Rich

    WE HAVE MET THE ENEMY, AND IT IS US.
    HOW MUCH LONGER WILL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CONTEND WITH AN IDIOT LEFTIST RUIUNING THIS COUNTRY???? CAIN SEEMS TO BE THE ONLY ONE WHO CARES ABOUT THIS COUNTRY. THE REST ARE ONLY INTERESTED IN GAINING THE MOST POWERFUL OFFICE IN THE WORLD. CAN WE TRUST MORE POWER HUNGRY FLIP- FLOPPERS???

  • luvmyusadoyou

    All of the Republican candidates would 100% better then BHO. But I a strongly leaning towards Newt. Newt will tear BO in a debate,

    not to mention Newt knows where all the political bones are buried.. We need a candidate that will not flip flop on issues, and will not be political

    correct in answering questions via the media or during a debate. IT IS IMPERATIVE THAT BO IS DEFEATED IN 2012. Please give Newt some consideration

    • mickey

      I would consider Newt but I think he alienates some too–too strong but I will give him his due, he knows where them bones are buried.

    • Lee

      Look into the real record for Newt and you will find that he has been assaulted by the left smear machine just like Palin and to a lessor degree other real conservatives. Newt may have some problems as most people do but he is a great conservative.

  • big papa

    zogbie poll has Cain at 39 and I don’t know where you get the numbers from we know that the progressives of both parties are trying to destory America with UN Agenda 21. Check it out it is true using the enviorment they will destory our freedoms by UN treaty. Romney will sign it and were done.

    • Patriot41

      Zogby has always favored the left.

    • mickey

      I’m not sure we have much of an environment left. Monsanto has pretty much taken care of our food supply. Vaccines upon vaccines to counter the irreputable harm done to our food supply and farm ground.

      Threats and take overs of property, lawsuits upon lawsuits against citizens and states trying to do the right thing.

  • OneWomansVoice

    So let me get this right. According to you (Dick and Eileen), Paul who is ahead of Gingrich and Bachmann according to your sources should drop out while they should work to get their acts together? Paul who just raised almost 3 million in a few days, far above Cain? Paul should drop out because he stands on principle and we need someone who flip-flops back and forth and looks more presidential to you? I am getting more and more frustrated with writers who state such garbage and are so disrespectful to Dr. Paul who has been gaining not only Republican backing but Dems and Independents as well. Romney can not win against O, Paul can–and will!

    • rder

      I don’t believe that Ron Paul can win – even if he is the knight in shining armor. Newt has every possibility of winning. Cain is a loser with no real message and will be controlled by his handlers and advisers – another Obama in the making. Romney and Perry – well – why go on about these two phoney’s which only have “anyone but Obama” on their side.

    • OneWomansVoice

      Respectfully disagree. Think about it. Let’s say you have three candidates:
      Left (Obama)
      Right (your pick)
      Independent (Paul)
      If you were to split it between two parties you would have approximately 51% to 49% on outcome. However, throw in a person who is taking from every sector–left, right and independent, and let’s just say he garners only 20% from each. That’s a huge 60% margin to win it.
      Most of the time I hear people say Paul can’t win it, it’s simple repetition of what the media keeps spouting.

    • mickey

      Yeah that old “Paul can’t win” thing is backbiting them. He is getting good support from the young that don’t have job opportunities under obama. 20 years out to cancel student loans doesn’t figure into their minds when they can’t get a job now.

      Paul has a lot of truly “dem” followers as well as great support from independents–the ones obama doesn’t have time for.

    • mickey

      Yeah, there are a lot of blue repubs in his following. I think both sides are beginning to understand we will have to take some personal hits to get us out of this.

      Even welfare and ghetto (induced by dems) are getting a bigger picture that jobs are preferable to welfare and one’s self esteem.

  • Rick

    Newt slipped a bit from 10% to 8%. Paul continues his descent to 0, going from 10% to 8%. Radically different comments for the same numbers!

    • Patriot41

      Rick, Newt did not slip. That was a consolidation and averaging of polls conducted over a period of time since the debates began. It is not predicated on the current ratings. In fact, Newt is now in double digits since the last debate and is moving up in the polls.

      Paul continues to gain strength with the youth and is taking a lot of Obama’s support from the college crowd. Neither Romney nor Perry have gained much if any as of yet. Bachmann’s campaign staff has been killing her chances of survival.

    • awakenow

      Notice how, all of a sudden, Newt is jumping on Ron Paul’s, years and years, of warning about the Fed and he is now saying the Fed needs to be audited??

      Newt’s been around for a long time, so why is he only NOW railing against the Fed?

      Answer: Because it is politically expedient for him to do so, at this time. NOT because he would actually follow through with any examination of the Fed.

      Gingrich is a longtime member of Council on Foreign Relations which is working on establishing a New World Order and taking this country down.

      http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=30874.

    • Johnnygard

      Are you familiar with the ’94 contract with America? Ten items posted in a full page ad of a National magazine, promising to vote up or down on all ten things if Republicans took the House. All 10 were voted on in the first 100 days. You think Newt won’t follow through on his promise? Name another politican alive today that has ever put his campaign promises on paper for all to see and kept them.

    • awakenow

      They were voted on but, as I recall, not one of them was passed. And, Newt blamed the party for it all, even though he was busy with his love life at the time.

      Maybe Newt can improve his chances by reiterating his support for the SCHIP, the unconstitutional federally-funded State Children’s Health Insurance Program he helped broker into existence in 1997, the individual healthcare mandate that he has supported and his position alongside Nancy Pelosi on Global Warming.

    • Johnnygard

      I stated easily verifiable facts above and ended with a question. So if you can’t refute what I said and can’t answer the question, you just give a thumbs down and run away. You just don’t have any facts on your side, right?

    • Patriot41

      Can’t agree with Awake on Newt suddenly jumping on Audit the Fed. You have to know the history of this movement which started with Ron Paul. For years, Ron has been calling for an audit, but Congress simply would not support him. Newt was not the type of leader who would take a plan and push it if it did not have a chance to even be voted on. Congress has only recently come around to taking a serious look at the Fed, because of the current economic mess this country is in. Hence, several GOP candidates have now seen a willingness to address the problem and the possibility of getting the voters support. Timing is everything!

  • Eddie Fontaigne

    A look at the polls across the board and watching how they react to gaffes by Cain that would normally sink candidates in traditional races it’s begiining to look clear. Cain has been adopted by the Tea Party and like Rubio in Florida, nothing hut real policy related substance can sink him. The Establishment have better get ready for Cain as the nominee.

    • Patriot41

      Don’t think so Eddie, Cain has opened himself up for trouble not only with his flip flopping, but also with his tax proposal which I believe in the end, will hurt him rather then help.

  • Stan

    There is only one good choice,Ron Paul,and people need to start picking him in the polls,and send a message to the liberals,and the special interest news media.

  • McClarinJ

    Why hold back your anti-Ron Paul feelings? Let them out. It’ll make you feel so much better. And if Paul surges instead and wins the nomination, maybe a good cry would help. Please don’t show up at America’s election night party with tears streaming down your face though.

  • mesaman

    Despite all the bickerings from those posting their personal favorites, it will ultimately come down to YO-bama and anyone else. I have not seen one GOP candidate that could be as bad as the present president. So wave your flags, taunt the ones you don’t like and give the democrats the impression there is no unity in the GOP party.

  • http://deleted Harvey

    The American people are so sick of Obama they would almost pay to get rid of him,in fact they are paying billions of dollars.I would almost bet that this last stupid stunt with the houseing market will finish him off,if not the forgiveness of the student loans will.Even the idiots are turning on him.
    I forgot to mention the 70,000 dollars worth of his books the State Dept. bought for Christmas presents.
    The hits just keep on comeing.

  • pat

    A couple of comments in here need too be looked at real closely,,because no matter which person ur leaning toward (Paul) no matter which one wins the nod for gop,,we need too stop the infighting and stand behind him,,no matter our feelings on it..there is no i in team..and too beat the commies in office we need a team..not infighting..we need too do our own research,,our own sole searching,,and our own gut feelings,,not let the media sway us and not let them choose our canidate..but in the end,,when it comes down too it..do not split into a third party,,we will lose..
    pat

    • mickey

      I disagree with you and agree with you. This is very serious and we cannot take any more chances. But call it infighting if you will but it is a discussion of where we stand. If another obama wearing an elephant suit goes in, then we all lose. A third party threat may just mean we have spoken loud and clear.

      Another 4 years of obama or 4 years of a repub obama isn’t going to solve anything. Voting conscience, hopefully will.

  • pat

    and within the next 10 years our country will be the united socialist states of america..and i didnt steal that from hank..i have been saying this for over 10 years..
    pat

    • rder

      You’ve been saying it for over 10 years – hmmm – that sounds like the second coming of Jesus – and it ain’t happened yet either – close????

    • Apatriot2

      It will be sooner than 10Yrs at this rate.

  • Patriot41

    It is a shame that the citizens of this country are unwilling to look at the seriousness that they are faced with in this upcoming election. This Republic is on the verge of being overthrown by radical socialist who are in the majority at present, in the White House and the Congress. Once the Republic with it’s Constitution, is done away with, there is no longer an American as we know it. That is the most serious problem this nation is facing right now.

    The second most serious problem, is that fact that our nation is on the verge of bankruptcy because of deliberated, senseless spending by Congress and also because of an out of control Federal Reserve, printing ridiculous amounts of money that has no backing whatsoever.

    With these two major problems facing this nation, I am looking for a candidate for president who will take the bull by the horns and is willing to do what must be done to correct both of these problems. Quite honestly, there has been but one candidate that has been consistent in addressing both of these problems for quite a while, but unfortunately, he is considered to be too radical to most of the voting public. I speak of Ron Paul and like it or not, he is the only candidate that is willing to tackle the serious problems this nation truly faces.

    Until the radical socialist are brought to a halt and the nation’s radical debt problems are brought under control, there is no chance of this country standing as a Republic in the next four years. That is a pure, unadulterated fact and nothing else will matter.

    • mickey

      If any are on the list of DSA (Democratic Socialists of America), then they need addressed as Comrade, not Senator or Congressman. Even the hard core ghetto voters don’t want to be associated with “comrade”. Give credit where due.

      Strange these people insist on being called Senator or Congressman as a sign of respect but don’t want the truth of “comrade” as a sign of respect.

    • Apatriot2

      Your right, and at last count (some what) there are at least 64 of them in the Congress/Senate.

    • awakenow

      Hear! Hear!

      I pray that the Liberty Bell will be rung, loudly and clearly, in celebration of the election of the only true defender of our … “Republic for which it stands: one Nation, under God, indivisible, With Liberty and Justice for all.”

      Ron Paul.

    • rder

      Unfortunately – the MAJORITY of Americans are enamored of the European style Socialists Democracies. Even as they watch Greece, Italy, Spain and Ireland collapse.

    • warren reynolds

      We are at, or almost at the point where parasites out number the contributers, when that point is reached the demcratic republic cannot survive,

  • pat

    actually look at re-finacing the crimminal has started..
    who really benifits from it??
    It makes the bad loans all the banks and fed has made and hides them for 6-9 months so he looks better..the consumer restarts with massive debts again..
    the banks are saved again so they will donate too the crook again..are people really this blind..
    pat

  • Snow

    I like Ron Paul for his strong libertarianism but his foreign policy sucks_anybody who believes its ok for Iran to have a nuke has a few screws lose.Romney is a Rino and Huntsman is Obummers lackey.
    All Bachman does is claim”I did this 1st n I did that 1st,phoohey on her.
    Myself i like Newt_The man has more gov’t knowledge and is a true Reagan Conservative.
    I like Caine but we already have someone in the WH with no experience_time to elect someone who can beat obummer and like some said knows where the bones are buried.
    Newt may have some baggage but hey “he who is without sin cast the 1st stone” we all have baggage….
    Newt for prez 2012

    • mickey

      I’m not quite sure what you mean that Paul’s foreign policy sucks. If you mean nukes, many countries already have them. If you mean all the foreign aid that hasn’t brought countries out of poverty, ending that is a positive–it is no better than the welfare we have here with no returns on the investment. Outside of that, obama thinks (and he isn’t the only one) we have the right to bomb any one because we helped them out at one time. Would you consider student loans the right to tell a kid what kind of job he is going to do just because he took student loans?

      We do not have the right, money or no money to tell another country what to do or to bomb them any time we please.

      Do you think we should wipe out a domestic city because one person comitted murder? That is what we are doing. And the bombs could be used on us. Please think about this. There is a reason obama goes to the UN treaties to control or usurp our Constitution.

    • warren reynolds

      As soon as the democrats start bashing Newt, all he has to say is, ” at least i allow the public to see my records” that ought to shut that muslim fu ck up quick like

  • Palinista

    Ron Paul is the only one left in the race who is really true to his values. That said, he can’t win, so I say support Bachmann. If we all come together we can take it away from the RINOS.

    • awakenow

      Ron Paul CAN win IF fellow Republicans actually start backing his message of standing in protection of the Supreme Law of our Land, our Constitution.

      Of all of them, including Bachmann, only Ron Paul truly defends the Constitution and will follow it, to the letter.

      Bachmann likes to tell people that she is also a defender of our Constitution but she clearly is not. How can she be, when she voted, twice, for the unpatriotic Patriot Act?? Which is an egregious violation of the 4th Amendment to the Constitution which provides for:

      Freedom from unreasonable searches: The government may search and seize Americans’ papers and effects without probable cause to assist terror investigation.

      The Patriot Act has turned We The People into the enemy, and we are being duped into, willingly, turning over our freedoms to Big Brother Government and a policed and under surveillance country … all in the name of alleged “safety and security.”

      Compare the US Constitution to the Patriot Act:
      http://www.scn.org/ccapa/pa-vs-const.html.

      “They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety
      deserve neither liberty nor safety.” – Benjamin Franklin

  • shortitalian

    I still like Perry,sorry foks,right now I won’t change

    • mickey

      Read a little more about Gardisil and illegal migration. I am ashamed that my state is considering Gardisil for boys too. Illegal is illegal. I just want a list of what it is that I can commit that won’t send me to jail.

      If anything, legalizing drugs would get these kids out of jail and all the baggage that comes with it. Including all the Congress and the money they are making.

      Perry is a Bilderberg, the same that brought us the Bushes and Clintons and obama.

    • Apatriot2

      Isn’t Perry an X Democrat?

    • warren reynolds

      perry is a closet liberal, i could tell when i heard him trying to over talk romney, they both suck…. GIVE A HOOT, VOTE FOR NEWT!!!!

  • mesaman

    I am reading a considerable amount of self-serving commentary from the WHINOS. Do they really think they are pulling the GOP party together?

    • awakenow

      So, we’re all just whining? And, the answer is just to vote for any old GOP candidate because he/she will fix things??

      DO you not understand that the GOP contributed to the nightmare we are now in with their support of the trillions in debt left to us when Bush Jr. left office?

      And, what about their vote for the first bank bailouts and the most recent increase in the trillion dollar increase of the debt ceiling, too??

      Or, how about the Prescription Drug Program that raided Social Security to fund and now there are only IOUs in that, supposed to be, locked box?

      And, how about the nearly 2 TRILLION that the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, alone, have added to the debt and that figure doesn’t include the billions upon billions that We The People pay in order to keep over 800 bases in over 130 countries open??

      And, Our money which goes to enrich the economies of those countries, instead of our own??

      The “establishment” GOP is no more Conservative than Communist China is freedom loving.

    • mesaman

      Answer, NO! Do you presume to know how lopsided your thinking really is?

    • awakenow

      Lopsided thinking? Everything I wrote is the truth.

  • Apatriot2

    I just wish Allen West was running…

    • warren reynolds

      MAYBE WHOEVER WINS THE PRIMARY WILL PICK ALLAN WEST FOR VP OR BETTER YET DOJ.

  • KH

    Dick is a good name for you.

  • Thomas Jeanne

    They are all RINOs,except Ron Paul.I am really growing tired of this rag and others trying to get him to quit.The truth of the matter is that the Republican Party is also afraid of him.I am also tired of these”pollsters”trying to tell Americans whom to vote for.I will remain a Republican just long enough to cast my vote for Ron Paul in the primary.After that,it’s bye-bye Republicans,hello Libertarians.

    • Don39

      He does not have to quit, he already is a distraction. Go ahead and help Obama get reelected. Calling you and those like you traitorous based on your stated intentions. Hope you come to your senses. We will not be brow beaten by you to vote for a non-candidate and sure loser, nor a libertarian!

    • Maynard Merrell

      I’ve been saying the same things since 1962 that Ron Paul has been saying for many, many years. I am a Constitutional Conservative, but since we have no party (One tried to start but didn’t get far. There candidates were ignored by the news media and debate organizers), anf so, like many people, I ended up voting for the lesser of two evils, both Bushes, and McCain only because I liked Palin. I still think she’s the best choice, but aside from Paul, who thinks a lot like me, I’l go for Cain, Bachmann, West for VP, and maybe one of the others. Voting for the lesser of two evils has kept us going downhill over and over again, deep into socialism. The republicans slower than gthe democrates, which makes the republicans the lesser of two evils. I’m also tired of the British Socialist Fabian Society and the Bildebergs (a socialist organization of well over a hundred billionairs) who own, operate, and pick the directors (Americans think the director is appointed by the president. He is told who to appoint to the Federal Reserve and other places in our government. They control the money and the Presdent). The Federal Reserve dictats our taxes, and the picking of candidates in both makor parties. Zoros is a Bildeberg. He owns Progress Insurance where he gets much of his money to do the socialists dirty work around the world. Down with all of them. Down with lying and eception. Deception is really lying. The firsu sin when the serpent deceived Eve then Adam. Deception is the cardinal sin.

    • Maynard Merrell

      I’ve been saying since 1960, the same things Ron Paul has been saying throughout his career. Few people have listened to either of us and is why the country is still going further and further down hill into the dark depts of subterfuge and deception and socialism. When people begin to listen, things will change. Along with Paul, there are a few others I would trust, like Palin, Bachmann, Cain,West for VP.

    • Matthew Holt

      Palin or Bachman maybe, but Cain? NEVER!

    • Maynard Merrell

      I’ve been saying since 1960, the same things Ron Paul has been saying throughout his career. Few people have listened to either of us and is why the country is still going further and further down hill into the dark depts of subterfuge and deception and socialism. When people begin to listen, things will change. Along with Paul, there are a few others I would trust, like Palin, Bachmann, Cain,West for VP.

  • KH

    I see the neocons are pushing the neocons and the useful idiots are falling for it…again.

  • Jack

    I think the bigger problem that we need to worry about in the upcoming elections are the electronic voting machines. Until we get back to paper ballots voted in private and counted in public we are all just fooling ourselves. Remember it’s not how we vote it is who counts the votes and our present system is inadequate and corrupt.

  • Maynard Merrell

    Don’t pay too much attention to the poles. Many poles are untrustworthy and designed to lead voters in whatever direction they want them to go. You, the people, should realize this, by now, that many people do not pay any real attention to whats going on in this country, knowing anything or suspecting anything about the condidates. partly because you also cannot trust the news media or anyone else. Lets face it, we live in a very dishonest, deceptive atmosphere. If they’re democrates they vote for democrates. If they’re republicans, they vote for republicans. If they are union workers they vote for whoever the union tells them to vote for, etc.. Many people simply vote for the person that they believe most people want elected, hence the poles, and that’s it. too many people are just too laze to study and think, or too wrapped up in their own little worlds. So a pole can be a very deceptive devise for misleading, or leading people in what ever diection they want. If the pole takers want Perry, for example, then they will vote for Perry. If the pole takers want Romney, then the people wil vote for Romney. If the poles don’t want Cain, then Cain will be lower in the poles, and people wont vote for him. simple isn’t it? This is not to say that all poles are dishonest, but that voters must learn and think for themselves, and not let the poles think for them. What kind of voter are you?

    • mesaman

      POLES??? Which candidates are Poles? Now, if you are talking “Polls”, then you make sense. You do place some question on your veracity, however.

  • jpark

    A vote for Cain is the same as a vote for Obama, who was backed by George Soros.

    Cain is backed by the Koch billinaire brothers. You are just changing puppeteers.

    http://news.yahoo.com/long-ties-koch-brothers-key-cains-camp

    Vot for Ron Paul who won’t do it if it goes against the constitution.

  • Karen

    Did you know that Ron Paul has received almost 3 MILLION dollars only in the past 5 days from GRASSROOT support? And this was in response to the blackout that the media has tried to pull on him despite his ASCENT as a front runner. This money bomb has made history! Yeah, “Ron Paul should drop out of the race”…so sick of the propaganda and marginalizing against this true Patriot and Champion of the Constitution. “Ron Paul continues on his descent to zero”???? REALLY?? I wouldn’t say getting 3 million smackaroos from supporters in EVERY STATE across the nation in five days is a DESCENT to zero?? Would you?…oh, you just did.
    PU-LEEEZE–so disappointing that this sounds JUST like the corporate media out there.

    • http://PatriotUpdate John R.

      Karen! You’ve got it right girl. Dr. Paul has it going on. He’s always spoken straight to us, but has been dismissed or “Blacked Out” totally. This time, his message is going over their empty headed rhetoric, and has resonated with the people that CAN have an origional thought. Morris can’t find his way out of O’reilly’s butt!

    • Jack

      Unfortunately, Dick MOrris has his proverbial head in his butt…AGAIN. He has proven once again that he is part of the problem instead of the solution. Keep digging Dick, maybe the hole will cave in on top of you and end your misery. There are some out here that dont swallow your BS.

  • Chad

    Wow.. What a crapy article, this is just like the garbage I can see on TV. If the only Runner who believes in following the Contitution, Down sizing the .gov, Cutting & Not Taxing- and freely releases his Voting history to prove it- should just “Drop out”!?
    This writer should be working the the NYT..I hope he wasn’t paid for his opinion…but it looks like he was ;)

    I hope the Voters decide to research their candidates… instead of listening to or reading what these distorted media idiots spew out.

  • http://www.brezz.com bressler

    RON PAUL-PRESIDENT-2012- THE ONLY SERIOUS CHOICE.

    • billy

      Ron Paul is the only serious KOOK. Some good ideas, but too weird to be electable. If you watch his poll numbers you will see that he is not taken seriously. But I would vote for him or anyone else against Obummer.

    • Jack

      Uh, excuse me BILLY….but had you bothered to do your homework, you would have discovered that Ron Paul has won MOST of the straw polls by a wide margin. WHY doesnt this show up in the MSM? You already know the answer to that question. Everyone in DC is SCARED TO DEATH that the American people will choose RP over their other PLANTS. I have worked for this man through three elections and I absolutely strongly believe that he is only one with the right answers up to and including his foriegn policy. If the VOTERS turn him down that is one thing, but being intentionally MARGINALIZED by his own party and the MSM to keep his ideas from becoming mainstream is morally WRONG. Its not surprizing coming from a bunch of people who will stop at nothing to get what they want including theft, fraud, extortion, bribery, intimidation, etc. Should be rewarded with conviction and stiff prison sentences.

  • Henry

    Cain for President. A no brainer.

    • Matthew Holt

      You mean, you have to be a No-Brainer to support a former Federal Reserve official!

  • Matthew Holt

    This so-called Conservative site, is putting out the same noxious anti-Ron Paul propaganda as the Corporatist Media. I am f-ing sick and tired of your BS.

    Kindly UNSUBSCRIBE ME IMMEDIATELY YOU FRAUDS!

    • not a fanatic

      I don’t think you should leave. I think you should request that they stop acting like the MSM and start acting for the people who frequent the site by actually vetting the candidates. I find it nauseating when so-called conservative sites start turning into huffpo, and we the peple need to guide them back.

    • Jack

      Same thing holds for Tea Party Express and a couple of others that seem to attract a mix of opinions. They are involved in skewing their personal opinions towards those candidates that they THINK most closely match their own. Ron Paul only gets mentioned in a negative light in spite of the fact that he is the Father of the Tea Party. Only TeaParty.net has given him favaorable ratings.

  • chris best

    Was this written by Dick Morris the Washington insider? That explains the total anti-Ron Paul views. I don’t remember who wrote the other articles that never give Paul any time. (just like the “debates”.) Think about what Paul says instead of re-act. We have a choice between someone who has a consistent, clear record of voting to uphold the US Constitution and others who vote to gain popularity.

  • Daniel from TN

    Here’s my opinion on the current Republican candidates.
    Perry has sabotaged his own campaign. He is in favor of things the rest of the country is strongly against.
    Ron Paul is simply too old. Although he has made some excellent points in the debates he has also put his foot DEEP in his mouth on a few issues. I believe his age is already starting to affect him mentally. This mental deteoriation will increase over the next few years, interfering with his ability to function as president.
    Gingrich has also made some good points and is an excellent logical debater, but his age and his endorsement of ObamaCare will eventually bring his campaign to an end.
    Santorum and Huntsman just don’t have the drive. I believe they will be the first ones to withdraw, sometime around New Year’s.
    Bachmann had the drive when she first announced her candidacy but the drive and support for her campaign have not kept the pace. After two or three current candidates withdraw some of their supporters will jump on Bachmann’s bandwagon, but not enough to carry her to the convention. Bachmann should start thinking about a vice-president position. Her campaign combined with one of the front running candidates will produce an awesome combination. One or two terms as vice-president will also give her the needed momentum for another try at president. Personally, I believe a Cain/Bachmann ticket is the winning combination for 2012.
    The final two, Cain and Romney, have good momentum at this time. They exchange first and second place in polls almost daily. The Republican nomination will be between one of these two, assuming no one else enters the race. The Republican nominee will be decided at the convention because I believe the caucuses and primaries will not produce a clear winner before then.

    • Mary P

      Newt did not support Obamacare – he has been steadfast against it from the beginning. As Speaker he of all people knows the monstrosity that is this legislation.

    • luvmyusadoyou

      Pres. BO in my opinion is out to destroy this country. Why? I am not sure. Our enemies were not able to destroy us with bombs or planes. But it appears from within the White House THEY ARE TRYING TO DESTROY US FINANCIALLY.
      This president has done everything not to promote jobs, but to destroy any ability to create jobs.
      The money that we gave to the car unions, to save them, is now coming back to bite us, as they use the money to donate to Democrats for the Nov. elections. How the hell can they use our TAX money? Why isn’t someone speaking out?

      This president appears only to care about himself, and I agree, if you can throw your white grandmother under the bus, the other are easy to do.

      I pray the truth about this president will somehow surface before its to late.

      My question is, Do we have a president or a future dictator?

      We need a strong cadidate in 2012 to defeat BO. I am leaning strongly towars Newt. I believe Newt is the only candidate that is capable of tearing BO up in a debate.
      Newt woud not be politcal correct, such as McCann did and lost. please give Newt a closer look and support. Lets make BO a one term president…..

    • Charles

      Mary P , Thank you . I was about to say the same thing about Newt not being for Obummercare . And unlike a lot of people I believe that Newt can win the next election . He is a constitutionalist and he will enforce the US Constitution .

    • Jack

      I wouldnt be so quick as to colour Newt in the Constitutionalist category. If you go back to do your due diligence I believe you will find that his House passed a fair amount of legislation that is unConstitutional and should be taken off of the books. The ONLY one in the whole bunch that has a proven track record on the Constitution is Ron Paul. THAT is a provable fact.

    • not a fanatic

      Daniel, had you abstaned from the adhoms you would not have received so many negative comments. No one minds objective commentary, but claiming someone is too old is kind of scary. Sounds as if you agree with the ‘death panel’ idea and the elderly should be eliminated.

    • Jack

      Well, Daniel, opinions are like noses..everybody has one. I dont ncessarily agree with all of yours, but then, according to the CONSTITUTION, we all have a right to our opinions. Read my lips. Ron Paul is running a tight race just a step or two back from the front runners. In ANY race, it is always a good stratedgy to not run in first place. The time to push is in the sprint. Hide and watch what happens to the supposed FRONT runners when the heat really gets turned up. Dr. Paul’s team is tuned into the hearts of the American people and he will prevail. So, I suppose, the questions is back at you. If he wins the nomination, will you vote for him?

    • Jack

      Daniel….Thanks for your opinion but NO CIGAR. I’m not buying an ounce of it. Ron Paul is in excellent health, doesnt stutter when he speaks and doesnt need a telepromter to explain his ideas. His ideas are intelligent, well thought out and backed by years in the trenches fighting to protect what we have left of our fragile Constitution. Forget the labels that have been drilled into your head by the MSM and idots like Dick Morris. Morris couldnt think his way out of a paper bag if his life depended on it. He just keeps opening his mouth and sticking his foot into it time after time. And, unfortunately, somoone keeps giving him a forum for his weary BS.
      As for the MSM, what is there left to say that hasnt already been said a hundred times. They are provaably an arm of the Obama adminstration and only spew what they are told to spew…PRAVDA USA. Boycott these networks and publishers..its the only cure.

  • Co-opted Confederate

    Whiased poll questionso are the polsters, why should we believe their stats. I have witnessed Polls by CBS a few years ago and they only asked their favorite demographic (Billy and Hilly supporters from Arkansas) the results were on 6 O’clock news very next day. literally say that both the Clintons could walk on water and turn water into wine. Don’t trust the Government and Never trust the media.

  • http://verizon.net budman

    While it is true that polls can can be framed to get a desired result, I watched the audience reaction to the candidates and it was obvious the audience did not not like the rudeness or both Santorum and Perry and Perry’s comment to the effect he would answer the questions the way he wanted, not on the questioners terms. Paul clearly upset the audience on his views about aid to foreign countries when it was asked if this included Israel for which his response was yes.
    From what I saw, Romney remained calm but he didn’t address some of the questions as well and specifically on illegal immigrants and birthright. They all ignored this question.
    Gingrich is the most qualified and most intelligent of the group but he has baggage that will probably hold him back. Cain couldn’t answer the 9-9-9 plan. He kept saying read my plan which isn’t his at all but one suggested to him by an economist and he flubbed it.

    • Homie

      Ron Paul, is the only candidate who speaks the truth, and is the only candidate I can support.
      Cain sounds good, until you really start looking at his 9-9-9 plan. 9% sales tax, would be a disaster for the sales of “new goods”. Who is going to buy a new home, or car, when you add 9% to the sales price? No one I know.

    • not a fanatic

      I agree. Ron Paul is the only candidate who believes We, the People should have our liberty restored.
      Cain is a cry baby and we already have an arrogant cry-baby occupying the WH.
      Morris never knows what he’s talking about. He believed Hillary would get the nomination.

    • Johnnygard

      OK, where did the crybaby line come from?

    • Samuel

      Ron Paulis a Libertarian who has run for president twice before. He is entertaining, but not a serious candidate.

    • Paul Smith

      a.) You say that as if there’s something wrong with being libertarian. I’d put Dr. Paul more in the Constitutional Party than I would in the Libertarian Party but both are closer to what this country needs than either of the ‘big two’.
      b.) What’s your definition of ‘serious’. He’s a ‘serious’ candidate for me.

    • Jack

      There is a political test on the web that asks questions about your political preferences. After you take it, they rate your political stancea according to known parameters. There are more Repubs that would fall under the “Libertarian” label than most realize. The whole thing depends on the subject at hand that we are discussing. Do yourself a big favor and read the previous books that William recommends.
      And add a review of the Constitution. When you finish, you will find yourself more in the Liberarian camp than anywhere else.

    • Wren

      Cain sounds like Pelosi, when she said,”you have to pass the bill in order to read it.” Well is Cain trying to tell us that we have to elect him before we get answers as to what is in his 9-9-9 plan?

    • Jack

      Ron Paul is the oNLY candidate that is not flip flopping around. His view on foriegn aid is right on the money. Not because we dont favor some nations over others, but because WE ARE BROKE, BANKRUPT, KAPUT! What is there about that that none of you can get through your thick skulls? We cant afford to get our of own way, let alone try and support every country on the planet. Try putting yourself into this scenario. If you are broke and badly in debt and someone asked you for a handout, what are you going to tell them? WE ARE PAST BROKE, PEOPLE!!!

  • http://VERIZON DICK

    PERRY IS MAKING AN ASS OF HIMSELF. HE SHOULD REMBER REGANS’S 10 COMMANDMENT.

  • not a fanatic

    This site is definitely in the tank for Cain and sending emails to everyone registered here to donate money to Cain’s campaign.
    I do not want any site to support ANY candidate. IMO, there is something very unethical about that. When a so-called conservative website does that, it is acting exactly like the MSM – pushing ‘their’ candidate onto us. We need conservative sites to remain objective and give us the full detail on every candidate. When this site promotes Cain, the vetting process ends and we end up with another Obeyme – which Cain is already acting like with his cry-baby antics like “They (the other candidates) are getting on my last nerve” and his hissy-fit because Rove had the ‘nerve’ to mention his name.
    My suggestion to the site managers – STOP IT. You are losing your credibility and will cease to exist.
    As for this particular post – Morris swore up and down Hillary would win the nomination while I was pointing back at him on the TV saying it would be BO. Morris doesn’t know what he’s talking about.

  • Garrett

    LOL really? The poll was conducted right after the debate was over? You certainly didn’t get the results right and didn’t give the majority a voice! Sounds like it was a sham to me! Romney, Cain, Perry, Bachmann, Santorum, Gingrich weren’t nearly winners as the one who always gets left out!!!

    • Jack

      WHY is there never a mention of how badly these “so-called” debates are skewed toward the ones THEY pick to go up against Obama? I would consider Ron Paul top tier right now and he gets the crappiest questions and the least amount of time. It is a very screwed process that anyone with half a brain should be able to see through. I think Newt has shown the most courage in putting these people in their place as any of them. It is shameful and deceitful and should not be allowed to even happen. The very best way to present the candidates is to produce a full two hour show featuring each candidate with a strict Conservative fielding the questions so the American people can make an intelligent choice based on FACTS instead of how well they can debate.

  • Johnnygard

    We all have our preference for the Republican nomination, but there seems to be one troubling aspect. Lots of Ron Paul supporters here tonight and that’s fine, but most of us will vote in the general election for whichever of the 8 wins the primary. But I’d like to see a poll of how many of the Paul supporters won’t vote for one or more of the other 7, should they get the nomination.

    • Paul Smith

      There are a couple I’d support – Bachman, Johnson & possibly Santorum but I’m done supporting the lesser of two evils, the RINOs. If any of the ‘big three’ get the nod, I’ll write in Ron Paul.

    • Doug

      I am a supporter of Ron Paul and if Paul does not get the nomination, I would look at Newt if he did, but I would still lean toward Paul if ran 3rd party. I do believe that the only way to save our country from economic collapse is a candidate that will actually carry out his oath to defend and preserve the constitution and the only person I trust with that, is Ron Paul.

    • Jack

      I am a Ron Paul supporter and have been fighting this battle for two campaigns now. If the American people choose to elect someone who will not put us back within the framework of the Constitution, then that is on their conscience not mine.

  • Sergeant Major (TEAPUBLICAN) Extreme Far Right Conservative (White Caucus)

    romney is a flip flopper and will say and do anything to get elected. romney would be just as bad as borerak HUSSEIN oslamba.

    • Charles

      Sergeant Major , I’m not a Romney fan but to compare any legal candidate weather they are Democrat or Republican to the fraud in the White House going by the name of obama is ludicrous .

  • Lazarus

    I enjoyed all your cooments. But no one is talking about how the liberal media is manipulating the events of the day. It does not matter who the republican candidate is – the liberal media will try to destroy them. I feel one of these candidates should be running against the media along with Obama. The media annointed Obama and Clinton. I would be calling the media unpatriotic because they are. You see that every day.

  • Studi30

    Being a supporter of Israel I am afraid of Ron Paul. He is an antisemite who sounds more like the survivalists and NeoNazis. This blog is dominated by Paul supporters.

    • Paul Smith

      Oh, please. Nothing Dr. Paul says is anti-semitic. He’s not. He’s pro-American. BIG difference.

      Dr. Paul will be a FAR bigger supporter of Israel than is the idiot occupying the oval office right now.

    • Susie

      And surely you don’t believe what the USA’s NEW OFFENSIVES are making ISRAEL safer?

      Seems to me that we’ve been systematically taking out any Regime which might have stepped up when we called upon them.

      And I personally do not believe the One World Order will benefit the USA, Israel, or the WORLD…and I believe that is the Agenda and the way has been paved by numerous previous adms and congressional delegations…

  • http://adrianvance.blogspot.com Adrian Vance

    Mr. Cain would have won if he had done a better job of explaining 9-9-9. He also needs to get good policies on abortion and national security. Then, he will run over Flipper Romney.

    The Two Minute Conservative at http://adrianvance.blogspot.com has political analysis, science and humor. Now in the top 3% on Kindle.

  • kabster

    They got to this site too. sad
    January 22, 2011 – New Hampshire Straw Poll
    1. Mitt Romney (35%)
    2. Ron Paul (11%)

    February – CPAC Straw Poll
    1. Ron Paul (30%)
    2. Mitt Romney (23%)

    February 27, 2011 – Tea Party Straw Polls
    1. Ron Paul (36%)
    2. Herman Cain (16%)

    March 20, 2011 – Republican Liberty Caucus of California Presidential Straw Poll
    1. Ron Paul (17.8%)
    2. Mitt Romney (10.9%)

    March 31, 2011 – St. Anselm College Republicans Straw Poll
    1. Fred Karger (out of race)
    2. Mitt Romney
    3. Donald Trump (out of race)
    4. (Tie) Tim Pawlenty (out of race) & Ron Paul
    Meaning Romney = 1 and Ron Paul = 2

    June 16–18, 2011 – Republican Leadership Conference Straw Poll
    1. Ron Paul (40.77%)
    2. Jon Huntsman (25.45%)

    June 19, 2011 – Iowa Republican Party Straw Poll
    1. Ron Paul (25%)
    2. Michele Bachmann (15%)

    August 13, 2011 – Iowa Straw Poll
    1. Michele Bachmann (4,823 votes/28.6%)
    2. Ron Paul (4,671 votes/27.7%)

    August 20, 2011 – New Hampshire Young Republicans Straw Poll
    1. Ron Paul (45%)
    2. Mitt Romney (10%)

    August 27, 2011 – Georgia State GOP Straw Poll
    1. Herman Cain (26%)
    2. Ron Paul (25.7%)

    September 12, 2011 – Cincinnati Tea Party Straw Poll
    Before the debate, Ron Paul came first, Rick Perry came second.
    After the debate, Ron Paul was still first. CNN have not released the full results of this poll, instead holding an online poll which OMITTED Ron Paul from the choices.

    September 17 – California GOP Straw Poll
    1. Ron Paul (44.9%)
    2. Rick Perry (29.3%)

    October 7–9, 2011 – Values Voter Straw Poll
    1. Ron Paul (36.9%)
    2. Herman Cain (22.5%)

    October 13, 2011 – RPLAC Straw Poll
    1. Ron Paul (53.4%)
    2. Herman Cain (14.6%)

    October 22, 2011 – Ohio GOP Swing State Straw Poll
    1. Ron Paul (53.50%)
    2. Herman Cain (25.47%)

    • http://PatriotUpdate John R.

      You, Sir! Are paying attention! Thank you for keeping it straight. Lets add California in Septembers state convention with more votes then Cain and Romney combined. Iowa straw poll on October 29 at 82% AND Illinois on November 7th at 52% of the votes!

  • kabster

    How can this site use the name “Patriot Update” When its obvious they don’t support the only Patriot in the race. Ron Paul 2012. I will not vote for anyone else.

  • Wren

    If this site cannot put a lid on the can of bias, we should all drop out. This is not Patriot Update, more like RINO Update. All I ask is give Ron Paul the fairness he deserves. The others have worse faults IMO and taking Ron Paul’s words out of context and drumming on with the spin is not fairness.

  • http://thePatriotUpdate karen henson

    Can’t you just see Newt debating Obama, he thinks so fast on his feet and he KNOWS his history. He would make hash out of Obama. Actually, Obama does not have the guts to get into the ring with Newt.

    • Charles

      Karen henson , Hopefully obama will be Nullified long before the election of 2012 . And yes you are right Newt would crush obama in any debate . When you lie like the fraud in the White House obama you will lose the debate before it even starts . As for Newt I think he has a good chance to be our next US President . But like Mr Gingrich said you have to be with him and not just for him to get this country back to the founding father’s foundations which is the US Constitution .

  • William

    Read Tom Wood’s Nullification
    Read G.Edward Griffin’s The Creature From Jekyll Island
    Google The Coinage Act of 1792 paragraph 1 and 19

    Read Ayn Rand’s For The New Intellectual and Capitalism: The Unknown Ideal

  • William
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