I kidnapped Andrew Breitbart for two hours and picked his brain, which isn’t hard to do because he serves it up on a platter. He can pontificate for 20 hours straight without a break. I’ve seen him do it.
Actually, I volunteered to drive Breitbart from Riley’s Farm in Oak Glen, where he was shooting his acting debut on the Colony Bay series, Courage, NH, (he played the high sheriff), to a private party in Calabasas, where his wife and children and friends were waiting for him. I wanted a private conversation with this great conservative champion of truth. My 19 year old friend Peter sat in the backseat. I told him to take the headphones out of his ears because he was in the presence of a famous man and he should listen and learn.
I have so many questions. I’m a beginner political activist. In between Andrew’s million cell phone calls, (he is saving the world), I began;
V: What do you think of Rick Perry?
A: I’ve been out of the loop recently, out in rural cities doing speeches so…
V: Well, there is that teen-STD-cancer-prevention-thing-that-starts-with-a-G-that-he-almost-mandated-but-he-didn’t. And, he was friends with the creator of it, but he defended himself by saying both of his parents had cancer and he just hates cancer and he never did mandate it so… He used to be a Democrat…but so was Reagan, and you! So, I think he’s real good. Perry-Palin. Perry-Bachmann. What do you think about Jerome Corsi?
A: (loudly) I wish you would quit bringing up the birth certificate! You bring it up all the time!
V: What? No I don’t!
A: (very loud) All the time!
V: (loud) No I don’t! I didn’t for a long time, but then I did some research and I just saw a video of Jerome Corsi showing…
A: We don’t need that! The conservatives have the strongest case against him without going there!
V: But it’s fake! Obama’s lying !
A: He always lies! The left doesn’t care! They worship him! You’re not going to convert anyone that way.
V: But…well, how can I more effectively try to convert the liberals?
A: The issues! The issues! Don’t attack the person!
I’m thinking about the chapter I just read in my W.I.N. book, “Keys To Good Government”, by David Barton. Our founding fathers thought character counted. They didn’t accept lying. President Garfield, a Christian minister said “…people are responsible for the character of their Congress. If that body be ignorant, reckless, and corrupt it is because the people tolerate ignorance, recklessness, and corruption.” Declaration signer and President of Princeton University, John Witherspoon, who served on over 100 committees in Congress, said a leader should “set himself with the greatest firmness to bear down profanity and immorality of every kind.” (That would include lying.) John Adams said, “Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” Founder and original Chief Justice of the U.S. Supreme Court John Jay used a story from II Chronicles 19 to explain that if you placed ungodly leaders in office, by your vote, then you had helped place ungodly principles in office and God could not bless ungodly principles, (like lying.) Charles Finney in the 1800’s said, “The time has come that Christians must vote for honest men…”
V: What issues?!
A: 1) He’s spending us into bankruptcy. Fastest debt increase of any president. 4 trillion in 2 ½ years. In two years, we’ll be bankrupt.
V: They’ll say Bush spent too much money also.
A: And…did they like that? Obama’s spent ten times more than Bush.
V: Okay, that’s good. What else?
A: 2) Should we have foreign allies? Yes! Well, how do our allies feel about us since Obama? England? Israel? That apology tour of the Middle East to make our enemies like us? They hate us now more than ever!
I was waiting for 3) when Andrew’s cell phone rang. His ring tone is that old fashioned brringg. He took the call; something about someone writing something that might hurt someone. I eavesdropped. Words are powerful. I’m still trying to figure out how I could have been more gentle with my Gay Glee Kiss comments. Jesus used strong words. He said to the religious leaders of his day, “Ye serpents, ye generation of vipers, how can ye escape the damnation of hell? (Matthew 23:33). But He is God. I’m not. How does one “speak the truth in love?!” Andrew hung up.
V: I was eavesdropping.
A: (still loud) Anyway, you shouldn’t say “gay agenda!” There is no “gay agenda!”
V: But do you want your kids to watch teenage boys kissing on prime time TV and kindergarten children to be taught Susie has two dads and…
A: No! I fought harder than anyone against that “czar” that wanted homosexual illustrations to be put into public school textbooks, the…
V: Isn’t the breakup of the family unit how a society is destroyed?
A: Yes! But it’s a Marxist agenda, not a “gay agenda!” The Marxists are the ones who told (the blacks and) the gays that they are victims, which they are not, so that they could manipulate them. The Marxists want to 1) destroy capitalism, incentive, and replace it with class warfare; the have-nots hate the haves instead of the have-nots can become the haves. 2) use immorality to destroy the family unit. Did you read my book?
V: No. (I’m going to read it on the WND cruise to Alaska this week. Hadn’t had time.)
A: Chapter 6 – I talk about this.
V: Chapter 6.
A: (still loud) And when you say things like birth certificate, gay agenda, he’s a communist, you are not helping! That will not convert anyone…
V: But he is a Communist!
A: I call it cultural Marxism.
V: (loud too) But that’s the same thing!
A: (reading his text messages)
V: Then, how am I supposed to respond to a world where the media constantly barrages my children with sexual immorality and…
A: The gays are not the enemy of American ideals. The Marxists are. I know lots of gay conservatives. And, some gays don’t want gay marriage, and …
V: I know. There are all kinds of conservatives and all kinds of liberals and we both have to pick one man.
A: (reading text messages)
V: I don’t know any gay conservatives.
A: That’s why I support GOProud and so does…
V: Ann Coulter. Well, I’m glad there are gay conservatives but how am I supposed to respond publicly to the TV shows that are stealing the innocence of our children…I mean, I don’t care what gay people do privately, and I love them all, but if “accepting their lifestyle” means they will teach my children that same-sex attraction is normal, and show my children diagrams of, you know…
A: I don’t know the answer… (texting)
Andrew’s cell phone rang again. His wife was wondering why he was so late. I was going 80 mph. Acting is always “hurry up and wait.” Actually, Andrew getting finished only an hour late is a miracle in movie world. There’s always something that goes wrong, a broken light, airplane noise, an injured actor…
19 year old Peter in the backseat was now listening. I said, “Good. This is historical. Breitbart will be remembered in history books.” Peter replied, “My Iphone battery died.”
We resumed our conversation.
A: I have to tell you something personal..
V: (I did a double take) What?! (I got scared.) I’m fat?! I lost a pound.
A: You and Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell do not communicate the Christian message in a way to gain converts. You make people hate Christianity.
A: You should do it one on one, not…
V: Wait, I agree with you. I am doing a terrible job converting people to Christianity.
(I was thinking in my head, how do you tell someone they are “going to hell unless they follow Christ”, in a nice way? Jesus said it and they killed Him.)
V: I mean, I drink wine, I got a tattoo, I had a divorce…I’m like trying to say I’m not ‘holier than thou’, I’m just like you…but then, people are like, yeah, you act just like me, so why should I convert to Christianity…you see, the…
A: Maybe you should just do it one on one…oh, my wife just texted, “ETA”? Man, she didn’t sign up for a guy who was gonna try to save the world…and everyone mad at me…
V: Maybe I have to decide what my goal is in all this blogging and public speaking. Am I on a mission to convert liberals to conservatism, or to convert the spiritually lost to Christianity?
(Breitbart doesn’t know I pray for him. He was raised Jewish. I even bought him C.S. Lewis’ book “Mere Christianity” because it was written by an intellectual for intellectuals. I lost the book somewhere in all my travels.)
V: If Conservatism is my goal, I’d go weak on the social issues and emphasize the fiscal issues. If Christianity is my goal, I’d emphasize the moral issues and …
A: Oh. Back up, back up. Turn right here.
I pulled up to a gorgeous, gated estate. Breitbart jumped out of the car. I pushed a call button on the little gate machine thing. Breitbart ran through the gate, jacket and breifcase flying in his wake. He shouted over his shoulder, “I want to continue this conversation!”
Conservatism and Christianity are intertwined. But, which cause gets my greater allegiance?
God commands, “Go ye into all the world and preach the gospel to every creature.” (Mark 16:15) However, if I don’t fight for a Conservative America, Marxism will take away my Freedom of Religion and I won’t be able to convert anyone! (’cause I’ll be dead!)
I paused at the wrought iron gate. No one invited me in. I hopped back in my car and 19 year old Peter switched to the front seat. He shook his head, “You might call it debating, but it sounded like arguing to me!”
I laughed, “I’m honored to be arguing with Andrew Breitbart. I always learn something.”
This article originally ran on August 29, 2011